[Winstonm]

Scoring: IMP

E S W N
1♦1♠2♣2♥
P-?

---

What side of the lake do you live on? Camp Trickamonga or Camp Imamini?

Partner resides in camp Imamini and passed; I'm strongly in the Camp of Trickamonga and see not a mini but tons of tricks, even with the not-to-valuable club King.

Camp Trickamonga votes a 4H bid.

Camp Imamini votes for pass.

Whose canoe gets dumped and who is all wet here?

Winston

[Winstonm]

Jlall, on Sep 14 2005, 12:27 AM, said:

wow pass? I couldn't imagine that, vote me in for 4H.

Yes.

Seemed a tad conservative.

Winston

[Jurek S]

I'd bid 2♠ not 1♠ but now 4♥ seems ok, even if the value of ♣K is uncertain

[Gerben42]

You have to support partner with 4-card support. Pass is out, the only question is 3♥ or 4. I'll go for 3♥ as I don't like my ♣K that much.

[helene_t]

Agree with Gerben.

[pbleighton]

3H is enough. Both opps have shown points, and your CK is probably worthless. If pd has the right hand he will go.

4H is much better than pass, however.

Peter

[Fluffy]

I live at the other side fo the ocean and would never bid 1♠ with that cards.

[flytoox]

I vote for 4H. If you bid 3H, LHO is likely to bid 3N. THen you have another problem. Leave the last guess to Opp.

[Free]

4♥. Anything is better than pass! At least bid again, show your support.

[han]

3H for me too, seems much better than pass or 4H.

[Gerben42]

Quote

I live at the other side fo the ocean

Well from your perspective you can't live on the other side unless you are on the other side from the side you live on, which you probably aren't. So this side is always this side from whatever side you are looking. If this is confusing, consider that in cricket they have this kind of talk all the time.

I wouldn't have bid 1♠ either.

[mike777]

4h not 3h but understand pass if you live on that "other side".
Just bid your darn game at IMP's.
I liked 1s, pard is an unpassed hand, well done partner.

[pclayton]

Pass here is hanging onto the steering wheel a little too tight.

4H is interesting since it rates to shot out lefty. But if 4H is making, pard is bidding it over 3H I think.

++++WARNING - PHIL LEAVING THE TOPIC (but hopefully not the planet ) +++

Remember the thread where I suggested a cue bid after pards 1N response to an overcall could be better used to show a good, but not great hand?

On the subject hand, I think 3H and 4H calls should be both blocking. 4H with the actual hand seems appropo. A cue is better used to show game invites (and the rare slam try).

[Winstonm]

For the record, the opposite hand:

AJ
AKxxxx
xxx
Jx

IMO a lack of proper evaluation - the overcaller's hand requires a big heart fit to be worth a lot of tricks - the 2H advance should show just that - once your decision not to bid 2S is rewarded by uncovering the heart fit, anything less than a raise to at least 3H means you might as well have bid 2S to begin with, so this must mean that you live on the opposite side from the side you thought you were on and therefore see things from the side that you thought was your side but was obviously the other side - and that simply isn't cricket!



Winston

[Al_U_Card]

Pard came in freely, you are ruffing his D losers and potential C losers (he may have Qxx) so go for the gusto with 4H.

[han]

I would bid 2H with that too Winston. It should certainly get you to 4H either in 1 or 2 steps.

[coyot]

4♥, undoubtedly. Partner's freebid certainly shows some tolerance for spades unless he has really long hearts - so we're looking at 9card and 8card fit and 20 HCP... that makes it worth a shot at game.