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Cavendish 2006 A new contest

#21 User is offline   nickf 

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Posted 2006-May-10, 01:27

dogsbreath, on May 10 2006, 03:33 PM, said:

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dark horse? Nagy/Richman in the top 3.

Bob wont have to remember a system. If he can remember what contract he's playing they'll get a few tops.

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Not quite, Bob and Zoly play a strong club system. I think Bob hates system. But dont hold that against him, he's nonetheless a top shelf player with the best nose I've ever seen.

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Posted 2006-May-10, 01:53

1. El-Ahmady - Sadek
2. Fantoni - Nunes
3. Hampson - Rodwell
4. Levin - Weinstein
5. Versace - Sementa
6. Bruun – Fredin
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Posted 2006-May-10, 07:54

I don't feel like taking part in this contest since I would feel bad omitting any of the pairs below:
Zia-Robson
Hamman-Lall
ElAhmady-Sadek
Hampson-Rodwell
Levin-Weinstein
Fantoni-Nunes
Fallenius-Welland
Crasen-Krekorian
Versace-Sementa
Ferraro-Madala
Stewart-Woolsey

(And I probably should feel bad about others I hardly know.)

Okok, I will try:
1. Hampson-Rodwell
2. Levin-Weinstein
3. Zia-Robson
4. Fantoni-Nunes
5. ElAhmady-Sadek
6. Crasen-Krekorian

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Posted 2006-May-10, 09:26

My picks:

1) Zia - Robson
2) Versace - Sementa
3) Fantoni - Nunes
4) Fallenius - Welland
5) Demuy - Wolpert
6) Levin - Weinstein
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Posted 2006-May-10, 09:33

hrothgar, on May 9 2006, 06:28 PM, said:

I'm surprised that no one else is expecting Boye Brogeland – Ishmael DelMonte to place. Two very talented players there. My main worry is that they are not a well established partnership. Even so, I'm hoping for big things...

Boye and Ish have been playing together for 2 years are part of Rita Shugart's team.
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Posted 2006-May-10, 10:17

My choice:

1. Fulvio Fantoni – Claudio Nunes
2. Geoff Hampson – Eric Rodwell
3. Waleed ElAhmady – Tarek Sadek
4. Bobby Levin – Steve Weinstein
5. Boye Brogeland – Ishmael DelMonte
6. Sam Lev – Jacek Pszczola
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Posted 2006-May-10, 12:28

nickf, on May 9 2006, 04:27 PM, said:

Goren/ Smith pulled out a few days ago.

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Then who is replacing them?
Is the word "pass" not in your vocabulary?
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Posted 2006-May-10, 12:28

Just for grins:

Waleed ElAhmady – Tarek Sadek
Zia Mahmood – Andy Robson
Sam Lev – Jacek Pszczola
Bobby Levin – Steve Weinstein
Fulvio Fantoni – Claudio Nunes
Hamman-Lall
Is the word "pass" not in your vocabulary?
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Posted 2006-May-10, 14:36

Fulvio Fantoni – Claudio Nunes
Bobby Levin – Steve Weinstein
Marty Fleisher – Chip Martel
Gavin Wolpert – Vincent Demuy
Cutis Cheek – Joe Grue
George Jacobs – Ralph Katz


Fantoni-nunes must be feeling pressure! Mannn
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Posted 2006-May-10, 22:39

I'll go only for the first 2:
1. Geoff Hampson – Eric Rodwell
2. Fulvio Fantoni – Claudio Nunes
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Posted 2006-May-10, 23:04

Hampson - Rodwell
Zia - Robson

BTW any chance to see the pre tournaments $$ auction? B) :lol:
Who is the richest player within the list? :lol: :lol:
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Posted 2006-May-10, 23:36

The pairs auction doesnt occur until Thursday 5/11, @ 7 pm PDT. The auction results are usually posted the in the following days bulletin (and sometimes on the website), if memory serves me correctly. The Bulletins and website may be found here:

http://www.thecavendish.com/
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Posted 2006-May-11, 07:45

Did anyone read the CofC? It's actually "followable".
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Posted 2006-May-11, 10:31

1. Zia Mahmood – Andy Robson
2. Bobby Levin – Steve Weinstein
3. Waleed ElAhmady – Tarek Sadek
4. Fulvio Fantoni – Claudio Nunes
5. Gavin Wolpert – Vincent Demuy
6. Bjorn Fallenius – Roy Welland
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Posted 2006-May-11, 13:10

DenisO, on May 10 2006, 01:01 AM, said:

My picks this year : play well guys - I want to see that 2nd Golden Imp award on my sideboard  B)


Go for it, Denis! but unfortunately there are no carry over
from the last year event <_<


:rolleyes:

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Posted 2006-May-11, 14:03

Given that the auction takes place today, I went and created a summary table describing the BBO forums consensus view. I gave each pair that was ranked first a 6, second place pairs recieved a 5... I then summed across all ranked pairs

Fantoni-Nunes 76
Hampson-Rodwell 50
Zia Mahmood – Andy Robson 47
El Ahmadey-Sadek 45
Levin Weinstein 44
Fallenius-Welland 25
Versace-Sementa 13
Lev-Pzsczola 10
Gavin Wolpert – Vincent Demuy 9
Stewart-Woolsey 7
Brogeland – DelMonte 6
Russ Ekeblad – Ron Rubin 5
Hamman - Lall 4
Marty Fleisher – Chip Martel 4
Alain Levy –Hervé Mouiel 3
Ferraro-Medala 2
Cutis Cheek – Joe Grue 2
Chris Compton – Mike Passell 2
Berkowitz-Pollack 1
Bruun – Fredin 1
George Jacobs – Ralph Katz 1
Crasen-Krekorian 1

It will be interesting to see how this compares to both the auction and the final results.
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Posted 2006-May-11, 15:14

Fwiw, Fantoni/Nunes and Versace/Sementa had an awful set together on vugraph last night. V-S had a bad misunderstanding on the auction 1 1 dbl rdbl 2. Versace was responder, and his double showed four or five spades. He thought the 2 bid agreed spades and he wouldn't stop returning to that suit until he finally got doubled (at the 4 level), but Sementa just had a good hand with 5-5 in the minors. They were extremely fortunate to escape for down 1 doubled.
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Posted 2006-May-12, 08:49

The auction results have just been posted.
Here are the top 10 pairs

I don't know the underlying auction system well enough to guess how well the sale price maps onto the expected value of the partnership. If this were a finance class, then the price/earnings ratio for all these pairs should even out. In actuality, emotions may very well run high

1. Mahmood-Robson
2. Fantoni-Nunes
3. Levin-Weinstein
4. Sementa-Versace
5. ElAhmadey-Sadek
6. Hampson-Rodwell
7. Lev-Pzszcola
8. Levy-Mouiel
9. Broegland-DelMonte
10. Fallenius-Welland

The price spread between number 1 and number 10 is $48K : 21K

Eyeballing the results, here's my take on the significant differences:

Overall, BBO and the auction agreed very closely regarding the top teams. The BBO and auction top 10 agreed on 4 of the top 5 and 8 of the top 10 pairs. Looking at the top 5 pairs, BBO's number 2 choice (Hampson-Rodwell) went in the #6 spot in the auction. Looking at the top 10 results, the main differences were at the margins.

BBO values Fantoni and Nunes significantly higher than the "smart money". Fantoni and Nunes scored almost 1.5 times as many points as the number 2 team. In the auction, Fantoni Nunes was the number 2 pair.

The smart money values Sementa-versace MUCH higher than BBO. Sementa-Versace went for 42K (1K less than F+N)

The "smart money" likes Zia-Robson much more than BBO who ranked them third. (I'll note in passing that Zia-Robson didn't even make my top six. Personally, I think that there is a lack of chemistry in this partnership. Z+R never seem to do as well together as I think that they should. There. I have pretty much guarunteed a first place for Z+R)
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Posted 2006-May-12, 09:41

From todays Cavendish Bulletin (hope its ok to post this....):

Changed Days, Indeed
by Sam Leckie

Most of you know of my success in naming the winners of
this event. I have been coming to this tournament for the
past nine years. Six out of 9 can’t be bad. I have surprised
even my modest self, but perhaps my greatest triumph was
a couple of years ago when WBP asked me not to name my
selection until after the auction as it could affect the prices.
Hell, did I not give you a complete profile of the winning pair
(Gitelman-Moss) the year they won?

The one pick I have never made in all these years is
everybody’s favorite player—Zia. I have always been of the
opinion that the method of scoring and other factors made
him a no-go and my judgment has been spot-on because the
best finish he has ever achieved was second place in 1998,
playing with Steve Weinstein. Believe me, even I could finish
runner-up playing with four-time champion Steve. This year
I feel is different. The other factors have been reduced (this
venue is an expensive taxi ride to the strip) and his teaming
up with Andy Robson (I swear, the kid is still growing!). A few
years ago they were a very successful partnership all over
Europe and the fact that Zia has gone to all the trouble of
reinventing it must be a pointer.

What finally decided it for me was an incident that happened
Tuesday evening. Zia was having a meal with a few of the
players when suddenly he announced he was going to bed.
The time was only 8:45 pm. This was surprising enough, but
the clincher for me was that all the other players actually
believed him!

http://www.thecavend...FRIBULL2006.pdf
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Posted 2006-May-12, 09:55

hrothgar, on May 12 2006, 03:49 PM, said:

The "smart money" likes Zia-Robson much more than BBO who ranked them third.  (I'll note in passing that Zia-Robson didn't even make my top six.  Personally, I think that there is a lack of chemistry in this partnership.  Z+R never seem to do as well together as I think that they should.  There.  I have pretty much guarunteed a first place for Z+R)

The "smart money" has a longer memory than BBO - winning the Cap Gemini World top in both 2000 and 2001 is not indicative (to me) of a lack of chemistry :) That's why they got my No1 spot.
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