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What do these sequences mean ? NT slam bidding

#1 User is offline   geofspa 

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Posted 2007-March-25, 15:45

Recently, playing SAYC, I have been rather forgetful of the meanings of bids following my partners opening 1NT (15-17) bid.

If anyone feels the need please enlighten me.

Sequences are unopposed.

1.
1NT - 2
2 - 4

(a.) Jacoby Transfers agreed.
What is 4 ?
How many 's minimum?

(b.) Jacoby and Texas Transfers agreed.
What is 4?
How many 's minimum?

2.
1NT - 2
2 - 4NT

(a.) Jacoby Transfers agreed.
What is 4NT?
How many 's minimum?

(b.) Jacoby and Texas Transfers agreed.
What is 4NT?
How many 's minimum?

3.
1NT - 4
4 - 4NT

Texas Transfers agreed.

This one I think should be Blackwood of some variety ... feel free to correct me
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Posted 2007-March-25, 16:07

This what I play:
1A 6, to play
2B 6, slam invite
2A 5, depends, dont bid it without agreement :-)
2B 6 Quant
3 6, Blackwood with spades agreed
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Posted 2007-March-25, 17:38

Just play Texas (or a variation) when you play Jacoby. So I won't answer parts A.

1. Mild slam interest.

2. Quant.

3. This one doesn't exist for me, I'd take it as RKC.
Please note: I am interested in boring, bog standard, 2/1.

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Posted 2007-March-25, 18:42

I believe expert consensus is that A is a mild slam try with a least 6 spades, B is quantitative with 5 spades, and C is RKCB with 6+ spades.
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Posted 2007-March-26, 06:17

I think Plaur's answers are pretty much standard allthough a few would invert 1A and 1B.

If you play
1NT-3
as a strong one-suiter, 2A should be quanti.
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Posted 2007-March-26, 06:34

geofspa, on Mar 25 2007, 04:45 PM, said:

Sequences are unopposed.

1.
1NT - 2
2 - 4

(a.) Jacoby Transfers agreed.
What is 4 ?
How many 's minimum?

1a. If 1NT - 3 was spades and forcing then this is just to play. Promises 6 spades (but five really good ones and a singleton might do)

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(b.) Jacoby and Texas Transfers agreed.
What is 4?
How many 's minimum?


Mild slam try (else use texas and pass 4 response.

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2.
1NT - 2
2 - 4NT

(a.) Jacoby Transfers agreed.
What is 4NT?
How many 's minimum?

(b.)  Jacoby and Texas Transfers agreed.
What is 4NT?
How many 's minimum?


2a. If no texas, then this is probably blackwood, however it could equally be quantitative. If quantitative, then 5 promised, if blackwood probably 6 at a minimum.

2b. This is clearly quantitative, almost always five spades, with six spades, you could have rebid 4 as the slam invite (see 1b).

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3.
1NT - 4
4 - 4NT

Texas Transfers agreed.

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Posted 2007-March-26, 08:38

1a. signoff, 6
1b. mild slam try, 6

2a. unclear what "standard" is IMO; I would guess ace-asking
2b. quantitative, 5

3. ace-asking, 6
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Posted 2007-March-26, 10:28

geofspa, on Mar 26 2007, 05:45 AM, said:

2.
1NT - 2
2 - 4NT

(a.) Jacoby Transfers agreed.
What is 4NT?
How many 's minimum?

It seems that there is agreement on all but 2a.

This sequence if not discussed is going to cause problems. I can see one half of the partnership expecting it to be quantative, while the other is thinking it is Blackwood.

All in all I myself would think that this is quantative showing a balanced (5=3-3-2) hand in the range of about 16-17 HCP, as the Jacoby Transfer only promises 5 cards in the suit.

Why are there always undiscussed sequences?

Isn't this the beauty of this wonderful game, there are an almost infinite number of ways we use to describe the hands we hold.

Oh and this sequence did occur for me - undiscussed - and you guessed it we both thought differently :P
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Posted 2007-March-26, 14:56

Own opinion here, although I think its fairly standard:

1a: game, since you don't have texas available to go directly to 4 spades. promises 6 spades.

1b: slam interest in spades. May only have 6 spades, but good chance of 7+

2a: keycard in spades probably. no real way to differentiate between keycard and invitational hands w/o texas.

2b: invitational, opener may pass, bid 5 spades, 6 spades, or 6 NT.

3a: keycard in spades, the texas and 4 NT followup sets spades as trump

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