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2♣-2NT-(p)-3♣*
A fairly easy hand to bid, but a general flaw in our bidding system appeared....
Q1: What should partner have when bidding 2NT?
Q2: Your interpretation about the 3♣ bid?
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General bidding question difference of opinion
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Posted 2007-September-11, 07:27
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Posted 2007-September-11, 07:52
2N promises a stop, and probably 15-18 pts. 3C is most likely shortness, and at least a mild slam try.
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Posted 2007-September-11, 07:58
2NT should be a good hand, fairly balanced, with a club stop.
3♣ = do something sensible partner. I play this as game forcing and would expect partner to show 3-card spade support or where his values lie.
Paul
3♣ = do something sensible partner. I play this as game forcing and would expect partner to show 3-card spade support or where his values lie.
Paul
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Posted 2007-September-11, 08:06
cardsharp, on Sep 11 2007, 02:58 PM, said:
2NT should be a good hand, fairly balanced, with a club stop.
3♣ = do something sensible partner. I play this as game forcing and would expect partner to show 3-card spade support or where his values lie.
Paul
3♣ = do something sensible partner. I play this as game forcing and would expect partner to show 3-card spade support or where his values lie.
Paul
What he said.
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Posted 2007-September-11, 09:14
But if you play support doubles, opener has most likely denied 3-card ♠ support, so he should show something else. If he rebids NT, he presumably has ♣ at least double stopped.
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Posted 2007-September-11, 10:09
What Paul said.
Please note: I am interested in boring, bog standard, 2/1.
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Posted 2007-September-11, 13:16
2NT should be 18-19 balanced here if I play strong (15-17) NT. 3C is an "are-you-sure partner?" bid. suggesting doubt about NT. As Paul said, partner is allowed to show something useful, either a) a solid club stopper (3NT), 3 card spade support (3S), strong hearts (3H) or maybe a useful diamond fragment in an emergency (3D).
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Posted 2007-September-11, 15:16
FrancesHinden, on Sep 11 2007, 04:06 PM, said:
cardsharp, on Sep 11 2007, 02:58 PM, said:
2NT should be a good hand, fairly balanced, with a club stop.
3♣ = do something sensible partner. I play this as game forcing and would expect partner to show 3-card spade support or where his values lie.
Paul
3♣ = do something sensible partner. I play this as game forcing and would expect partner to show 3-card spade support or where his values lie.
Paul
What he said.
Ditto. If partner denied 3c♠ he might show HH.
Kind regards,
Harald
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Posted 2007-September-11, 15:42
Q1: The same hand he would hold,
if he did bid 2NT and the overcall did not occur,
he should have a stopper
Q2: looking for a 3 card spade suit, maybe
it also shows some worries about 3NT,
it may imply a club single, this will be
more important in case you play suppX.
With kind regards
Marlowe
if he did bid 2NT and the overcall did not occur,
he should have a stopper
Q2: looking for a 3 card spade suit, maybe
it also shows some worries about 3NT,
it may imply a club single, this will be
more important in case you play suppX.
With kind regards
Marlowe
With kind regards
Uwe Gebhardt (P_Marlowe)
Uwe Gebhardt (P_Marlowe)
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Posted 2007-September-11, 22:05
mr1303, on Sep 11 2007, 02:16 PM, said:
2NT should be 18-19 balanced here if I play strong (15-17) NT. 3C is an "are-you-sure partner?" bid. suggesting doubt about NT. As Paul said, partner is allowed to show something useful, either a) a solid club stopper (3NT), 3 card spade support (3S), strong hearts (3H) or maybe a useful diamond fragment in an emergency (3D).
Complete agreement, but I see too many players rebidding 2NT with a hand that has a stop and would have rebid 1NT had there been no O/C. This lead to 2 disasters for my opps tonite who ended up too high.
Off course opener is allowed to upgrade for positional values based on tenaced stoppers etc but rebidding 2NT on a dbl stop and 14 HCP is just nuts.
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