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#1 User is offline   Hairy_Scot 

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Posted 2008-March-25, 18:58

In an online individual tourney you pick up this hand :-

Scoring: IMP



Partner's profile states SAYC and not much else, so there are no agreements in force and no time to discuss any.

What do you bid?
Is it enough for 2 ♣ ?

Let's say you decide on 1 ♠ . Partner responds 2 ♣ .
What now?
It seems in the modern game that a jump rebid shows weakness and can be passed, so will 3 ♠ be a good idea?
Does 2 ♠ tell the story?
What about 3 ♦ ?
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Posted 2008-March-25, 19:03

In SAYC, 3♠ shows 16+ points and a decent 6-card so that's your rebid. If you miss a good diamond slam maybe you can blame the system :D

2♠ would be forcing for one round btw but not everyone with "SAYC" on his profile knows that.
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Posted 2008-March-25, 19:52

I chose 3♠ and was passed out!

Made 11 tricks.

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Posted 2008-March-26, 02:15

Hairy_Scot, on Mar 25 2008, 08:52 PM, said:

I chose 3♠ and was passed out!

Made 11 tricks.

:lol:

Happens, next board.

But playing with another guy, how would you have felt
after bidding 4S and making 12 tricks?

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Posted 2008-March-26, 03:58

3♠ is normal. I don't know where the idea of this being weak comes from.

Partner isn't much of a partner if he passes. Oh well you get that in an INDY.
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Posted 2008-March-26, 04:12

stop playing indies
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Posted 2008-March-26, 04:20

There are too many Indiots playing Indies.

3 ♠ is never weak after a 2/1 .But think positive: 3♠+ 2 is a much better score then 6 ♠ -1
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Posted 2008-March-26, 05:18

Hairy_Scot, on Mar 26 2008, 12:58 AM, said:

It seems in the modern game that a jump rebid shows weakness and can be passed, so will 3 ♠ be a good idea?

A jump rebid after 2/1 is game forcing and you should bid that.
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Posted 2008-March-26, 06:36

Jlall, on Mar 26 2008, 11:12 AM, said:

stop playing indies

LOL !

Agree :P
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Posted 2008-March-26, 14:28

The hand isn't strong enough to open 2♣.

In a natural, non-2/1 system the only appealing bid here is a GF 3♠.
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