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#1 User is offline   cnszsun 

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Posted 2008-August-23, 01:07

2C-2D
2H-3H
3S-3NT

2C=strong, 2D=waiting, 3S=cue.
How do you interpret 3NT? (you have no special agreement)
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Posted 2008-August-23, 01:59

3h=slam try
3s=cue
3nt=confuse partner...........silly....but ok.....you explain...........but i do not pass
my guess...looking for club cuebid?
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Posted 2008-August-23, 02:14

mike777, on Aug 23 2008, 03:59 PM, said:

3h=slam try

Why 3h=slam try?
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Posted 2008-August-23, 02:23

cnszsun, on Aug 23 2008, 03:14 AM, said:

mike777, on Aug 23 2008, 03:59 PM, said:

3h=slam try

Why 3h=slam try?

2d=game force I assume 100%
2h=other....non game force 100%(zero to 12 tiny hcp....no k no ace)
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Posted 2008-August-23, 03:13

Nothing to cue bid, but too strong to sign off in 4♥ - probably a collection of trump honours and queens.
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Posted 2008-August-23, 03:18

cnszsun, on Aug 23 2008, 09:14 AM, said:

mike777, on Aug 23 2008, 03:59 PM, said:

3h=slam try

Why 3h=slam try?

This is a matter of agreement, but playing fast arrival, a weak hand would have bid 4♥.

Even ff 2♥ is not game force, if responder has 3-card heart support it is probably enough to force to game, even with zero points. Otherwise you can play 2NT (or something else) as second negative after 2♥.

I think serious 3NT applies here since both hands have a wide range. If you don't play any conventional 3NT bids in slamish situations, it is obviously a suggestion to play 3NT. But I think you can do without a natural 3NT here.
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Posted 2008-August-23, 04:05

no club control
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Posted 2008-August-23, 07:58

gnasher, on Aug 23 2008, 05:13 PM, said:

Nothing to cue bid, but too strong to sign off in 4♥ - probably a collection of trump honours and queens.

Exactly what i thought, but i was not sure how many else would have same understanding.
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Posted 2008-August-28, 06:16

My (flexible) agreement for 2♣ is less than 4 losers, so resopnder does not need a great hand to be forward going, but will often struggle for cue bids. He couldbe as good as
QJ
QJxxx
QJx
QJx

and have no obvious bid, well, maybe keycard :), but i would think 3nt is forward going in hearts with a preponderance of soft (but useful) values. I know some ppl play it as showing or denying good trumps.

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Posted 2008-August-28, 06:24

With an expert partner and no agreement, I would assume it's slam interest.
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Posted 2008-August-28, 06:55

nothing to q-bid, but still interested in slam. trump honor(s) and Q's like in actual hand seems about right. Even if not playing "Serious 3N" this meaning seems clear, at least to me.
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Posted 2008-August-28, 06:56

Do we play (non-)serious 3NT?

In my opinion it should be serious, 3H did set the suit,
now responder shows a (un-)suitable hand for slam in
the context of his bidding.

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