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jjbrr, on Jul 29 2009, 01:05 PM, said:
Al_U_Card, on Jul 29 2009, 10:48 AM, said:
Vigilence is not paranoia when there is a real potential for the issue at hand... 
Does such a comment constitute paranoia?
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Posted 2009-July-29, 12:27
Does such a comment constitute paranoia?
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There is current scientific speculation about a cometary hit on the NA ice sheet that produced the mini-ice age 13K yrs ago and removed large animals from NA as well as "stunting" the Clovis people's development.
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Posted 2009-July-29, 13:59
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There is current scientific speculation about a cometary hit on the NA ice sheet that produced the mini-ice age 13K yrs ago and removed large animals from NA as well as "stunting" the Clovis people's development.
I watched a show on the History Channel about this. The other theory is that as the glaciers were melting, fresh water from rivers that had been dammed by the glaciers was able to reach the Atlantic Ocean. This affected various currents and what not and led to much, much cooler temperatures and dramatic climate change.
Back then, people should have worried about too much fresh water, I suppose. The times they are a'changin'.
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Posted 2009-July-29, 14:37
The glacial melt supposition doesn't cover the micro-diamond and iridium layer deposited by the "event" whatever it may have been.
At present (since it has been measured in the mid '80's) the thermohaline conveyor (Gulf Stream etc.) has been slowing down. Disrupted by freshwater melt from the arctic mostly. Europe may be in its last warm spell for a while.
At present (since it has been measured in the mid '80's) the thermohaline conveyor (Gulf Stream etc.) has been slowing down. Disrupted by freshwater melt from the arctic mostly. Europe may be in its last warm spell for a while.
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Posted 2009-July-29, 16:32
I'm one of two votes for we will survive forever. After all, it only takes one Adam and one Eve.
The rest of you probably pass invitational 2 notrump bids on a regular basis.
The rest of you probably pass invitational 2 notrump bids on a regular basis.
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ggwhiz, on Jul 29 2009, 05:32 PM, said:
I'm one of two votes for we will survive forever. After all, it only takes one Adam and one Eve.
That makes me wonder about the gender of the two of you.
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Posted 2009-July-30, 03:20
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I'm one of two votes for we will survive forever. After all, it only takes one Adam and one Eve.
The rest of you probably pass invitational 2 notrump bids on a regular basis.
The rest of you probably pass invitational 2 notrump bids on a regular basis.
I am the other. And I also hate 2NT, such a stupid contract.
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The French expression "Jamais deux sans trois" has a lot of potential interpretations but that would be a new one....lol
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Posted 2009-July-30, 06:19
Al_U_Card, on Jul 29 2009, 03:37 PM, said:
Europe may be in its last warm spell for a while.
do they know that? and have they told al gore yet?
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luke warm, on Jul 30 2009, 07:19 AM, said:
Al_U_Card, on Jul 29 2009, 03:37 PM, said:
Europe may be in its last warm spell for a while.
do they know that? and have they told al gore yet?
Al Gore will be a major source of "Cap and trade" credits, all by himself...
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Posted 2009-July-30, 07:04
I voted for comet/meteor. Tossup between that and hydrogen depletion of the sun. Disease, war and warming will keep population size in check until then so maybe it won't be so bad when it happens. 
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Posted 2009-July-30, 08:28
Still decidedly intermediate - don't take my guesses as authoritative.
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[quote]We will survive until the hydrogen depletion of the Sun[/quote]
By this time, humans as we know it won't exist anymore. Evolution and all.
[quote]Comet/meteor impact[/quote]
Even an unexpected impact won't end all humans. Some of us will survive living on submarines or laboratories. Thanks to emancipation, these areas are not populated just by men.
[quote]Alien invasion[/quote]
No way. They would already have done so.
[quote]Boredom[/quote]
Don't see how that will work.
[quote]AIDS[/quote]
Not going to happen. Thanks to sexual education and contraception, AIDS is under control in most places. Which raises the point: what should be the penalty for those who try to keep condoms away from people in AIDS-infested areas (including but not limited to the Pope and some South-African politicians).
[quote]Influenza[/quote]
No influenza-virus has even gotten close to 100% mortality rate.
[quote]Some other transmittable disease[/quote]
Even in scenarios like "I am legend", some pockets of humans will survive, somewhere. Most likely in Polynesia or so.
[quote]Global warming[/quote]
Too slow, we will adapt. Besides, we'll move to Mars before the oceans start to boil off.
[quote]Some other polution-related problem[/quote]
Moving to Mars again...
[quote]Food shortage induced by over-crowding[/quote]
Will cause billions of deaths, and is probably going to happen this century. But this will reduce the population to a billion or so.
[quote]Freshwater shortage[/quote]
Ditto. Likely to happen, likely to reduce us to a billion or so.
[quote]Energy shortage[/quote]
We can do without. We have before...
[quote]Depletion of some other essential resource[/quote]
We will do without, I guess.
[quote]Bee extinction[/quote]
Won't be fun, but someone will figure out a solution.
[quote]Extinction of gut bacteria[/quote]
Again, don't see how this would affect a lonely island in Polynesia.
[quote]Extinction of some other essential species[/quote]
Might not be fun at all, but won't kill us.
[quote]Decay of the human genome [/quote]
If by this you mean evolution, then yes. In 5 million years, the humans then will be as different from us as we are from our common ancestor with the chimpansees.
[quote]War[/quote]
Not efficient enough.
[quote]Other[/quote]
The greatest danger is some invention that would systematically and intelligently try to kill all humans.
By this time, humans as we know it won't exist anymore. Evolution and all.
[quote]Comet/meteor impact[/quote]
Even an unexpected impact won't end all humans. Some of us will survive living on submarines or laboratories. Thanks to emancipation, these areas are not populated just by men.
[quote]Alien invasion[/quote]
No way. They would already have done so.
[quote]Boredom[/quote]
Don't see how that will work.
[quote]AIDS[/quote]
Not going to happen. Thanks to sexual education and contraception, AIDS is under control in most places. Which raises the point: what should be the penalty for those who try to keep condoms away from people in AIDS-infested areas (including but not limited to the Pope and some South-African politicians).
[quote]Influenza[/quote]
No influenza-virus has even gotten close to 100% mortality rate.
[quote]Some other transmittable disease[/quote]
Even in scenarios like "I am legend", some pockets of humans will survive, somewhere. Most likely in Polynesia or so.
[quote]Global warming[/quote]
Too slow, we will adapt. Besides, we'll move to Mars before the oceans start to boil off.
[quote]Some other polution-related problem[/quote]
Moving to Mars again...
[quote]Food shortage induced by over-crowding[/quote]
Will cause billions of deaths, and is probably going to happen this century. But this will reduce the population to a billion or so.
[quote]Freshwater shortage[/quote]
Ditto. Likely to happen, likely to reduce us to a billion or so.
[quote]Energy shortage[/quote]
We can do without. We have before...
[quote]Depletion of some other essential resource[/quote]
We will do without, I guess.
[quote]Bee extinction[/quote]
Won't be fun, but someone will figure out a solution.
[quote]Extinction of gut bacteria[/quote]
Again, don't see how this would affect a lonely island in Polynesia.
[quote]Extinction of some other essential species[/quote]
Might not be fun at all, but won't kill us.
[quote]Decay of the human genome [/quote]
If by this you mean evolution, then yes. In 5 million years, the humans then will be as different from us as we are from our common ancestor with the chimpansees.
[quote]War[/quote]
Not efficient enough.
[quote]Other[/quote]
The greatest danger is some invention that would systematically and intelligently try to kill all humans.
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I think a large enough comet would almost certainly end all humans.
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jjbrr, on Jul 31 2009, 11:26 AM, said:
I think a large enough comet would almost certainly end all humans.
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luke warm, on Jul 31 2009, 05:04 PM, said:
jjbrr, on Jul 31 2009, 11:26 AM, said:
I think a large enough comet would almost certainly end all humans.
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The New Testament is also a candidate for global killer?
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Hoped this topic was about the movie. 
Fortunately, no problem twisting my post in that direction.
In the Terminator movies, humankind is close to destruction, because an artificially intelligent system (Cyberdyne) gains control, and the humans can't "switch it off".
I fear something slightly similar might happen: The exclusion of common sense and discretion in favor of laws that must be obeyed, no matter how stupid.
Thus another "system", uncontrolled laws, will rule.
So when Global Warming, Extinction of some kind, or something else, which we could stop threatens our civilization, it will die "according to rules", as no person or group will be powerful enough to "switch it off".
Fortunately, no problem twisting my post in that direction.
In the Terminator movies, humankind is close to destruction, because an artificially intelligent system (Cyberdyne) gains control, and the humans can't "switch it off".
I fear something slightly similar might happen: The exclusion of common sense and discretion in favor of laws that must be obeyed, no matter how stupid.
Thus another "system", uncontrolled laws, will rule.
So when Global Warming, Extinction of some kind, or something else, which we could stop threatens our civilization, it will die "according to rules", as no person or group will be powerful enough to "switch it off".
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Gerben42, on Jul 31 2009, 04:13 PM, said:
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Decay of the human genome
If by this you mean evolution, then yes. In 5 million years, the humans then will be as different from us as we are from our common ancestor with the chimpansees.
I hate to talk about evolution, but I am afraid we are not getting natural selection nowadays, everyone has human rights, and those who are different are getting help from the government.
I don't mean to say helping them is wrong, but we are moving on every direction, not just forward.
The Aliens would had done it yet?, probably for our life time/history, but before the sun depletes its a huge enough time.
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Fluffy, on Aug 1 2009, 10:37 AM, said:
Gerben42, on Jul 31 2009, 04:13 PM, said:
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Decay of the human genome
If by this you mean evolution, then yes. In 5 million years, the humans then will be as different from us as we are from our common ancestor with the chimpansees.
I hate to talk about evolution, but I am afraid we are not getting natural selection nowadays, everyone has human rights, and those who are different are getting help from the government.
I don't mean to say helping them is wrong, but we are moving on every direction, not just forward.
The Aliens would had done it yet?, probably for our life time/history, but before the sun depletes its a huge enough time.
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jjbrr, on Jul 31 2009, 07:06 PM, said:
luke warm, on Jul 31 2009, 05:04 PM, said:
jjbrr, on Jul 31 2009, 11:26 AM, said:
I think a large enough comet would almost certainly end all humans.
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The New Testament is also a candidate for global killer?
I thought he meant Karen Silkwood's brother, Worm.
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