[phil_20686]

Scoring: MP

1♣ P 1♦ P
2♥ X P 3♣
P P ?

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You are playing transfer walsh so partner has shown a weak NT with 4 hearts. He could have 4 diamonds.
Your opposition are not particularly strong if you think that matters.

[helene_t]

phil_20686, on Jan 15 2010, 04:06 PM, said:

Your opposition are not particularly strong if you think that matters.

Disagree with that

[phil_20686]

helene_t, on Jan 15 2010, 10:26 AM, said:

phil_20686, on Jan 15 2010, 04:06 PM, said:

Your opposition are not particularly strong if you think that matters.

Disagree with that

Apologies . Clear social faux pas. Your opposition are Helene + partner

[lamford]

phil_20686, on Jan 15 2010, 10:43 AM, said:

Apologies . Clear social faux pas. Your opposition are Helene + partner

Presumably a strong partner then

[helene_t]

OK, maybe relevant to this poll: it was me who bid 3♣. It was manudude03 who doubled. P is Alex Wilkinson.

[ajm218]

Pass - WTP??? not even remotely tempted to bid 3H tbh

[pooltuna]

phil_20686, on Jan 15 2010, 10:43 AM, said:

helene_t, on Jan 15 2010, 10:26 AM, said:

phil_20686, on Jan 15 2010, 04:06 PM, said:

Your opposition are not particularly strong if you think that matters.

Disagree with that

Apologies . Clear social faux pas. Your opposition are Helene + partner

Your opps have done their job (making your life hard ) pass and hope you can set it.

[Fluffy]

partner is young and didn't bid on his own, better not to move.

[whereagles]

pass seems clear. No shape nor extras to bid 3... but this is MPs and letting opps play 3♣ rates to be a top-or-zero result, since few opps will find the club fit.

I'll have to take a flier and bid 3♥. Would pass at imps.

[FrancesHinden]

I voted for 3H before seeing the previous posting (from someone who hasn't voted yet).

Obvious to pass at imps, but this is matchpoints. 3C rates to make so double is totally insane. And if 3C is going off, we might be making 3H. What matters is not how strong opponents are, but how light they are on the trigger finger against 3H.

[NickRW]

FrancesHinden, on Jan 17 2010, 11:37 AM, said:

I voted for 3H before seeing the previous posting (from someone who hasn't voted yet).

Obvious to pass at imps, but this is matchpoints. 3C rates to make so double is totally insane. And if 3C is going off, we might be making 3H. What matters is not how strong opponents are, but how light they are on the trigger finger against 3H.

Also somewhat depends on the opening sides style. With one partner I play 5443 with T Walsh, so clubs can be 3, but aren't very often - in which case I am not sure they've even found an 8 card fit.

Nick

[helene_t]

btw you can probably assume that the other tables bid 1NT-p-p-p since it's a weak-notrump club

[Vilgan]

3♥ is very likely to get a double imo. Clear pass, and I hope that we are lucky and things lie very very badly for E/W on the hand and we are -130 instead of -200. Most likely heading for a bad result on the board, but I still don't think that justifies another bid.

[dake50]

Tip-o-the-hat: opponents probably got this one right. Pass.

[NickRW]

helene_t, on Jan 17 2010, 03:25 PM, said:

btw you can probably assume that the other tables bid 1NT-p-p-p since it's a weak-notrump club

Well, if that is the case, surely the argument about pass versus double boils down to the relative probability of:

case 1: The field is making 1NT for +90 and they are off in 3c and we need to double to convert +50 into +100.

case 2: The field is 2 off in 1NT for -200 and doubling a making 3c converts -110 into -470.

So, despite the fact that I voted for pass, I think case 1 is more likely than case 2.

The analysis for 3H is more complex as it depends on both the chances we might make (perhaps not very likely, but not impossible) and the chance that they will double us - seems quite possible given that they've pushed us so far. Essentially you need to have a fighting chance at making the thing for this to be right.

Nick

[MFA]

I think many are worrying way too much about what will happen at the other tables. As usual. I think this 'theme' is grossly overrated as a match point strategy.

We don't know and all that speculating is using up our energy for the real decision: what bid will rate to give us the best bridge result in the long run.

For me this is an obvious pass. So it must have worked out terribly in practice when this hand has made it to the forums.

[helene_t]

No, pass would have worked out fine.

[hanp]

Ditto MFA.

[phil_20686]

I was dummy and there were no hand records available, but I made 3h but still felt in retrospect i had made a poor decsion. The other scores on the traveller (i think maybe helene can correct me) were +90 +120 +120.

I think that 3h can always be made due to a fortuneate lie of spade pips (and 3-2 trump break), but since there are no hand records i cannot be completely sure. I was dummy and didn't really pay that much attention to the play.