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Posted 2010-March-18, 11:19

Scoring: IMP

(P) - P - (1♥) - Dbl;
(2♦*) - 2♠ - (P) - ?

*Good ♥ raise

What is your bidding plan?
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Posted 2010-March-18, 11:25

4nt
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Posted 2010-March-18, 11:26

it's a bit crazy all the hcp everywhere! but we have 23 and we just need ♠kq from GOP and 5 level safety is almost certain so yea 4NT.
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Posted 2010-March-18, 11:27

righty 3rd seat w/r... doesn't take a rocket scientist...
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Posted 2010-March-18, 12:10

jjbrr, on Mar 18 2010, 12:25 PM, said:

4nt

and how would 4NT be different over 4♠ after you splintered in ♦ or would 4♦ be natural?
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Posted 2010-March-18, 12:16

pooltuna, on Mar 18 2010, 10:10 AM, said:

jjbrr, on Mar 18 2010, 12:25 PM, said:

4nt

and how would 4NT be different over 4♠ after you splintered in ♦ or would 4♦ be natural?

I don't think 4♦ would be a splinter, at least in how I play with my partners. We have the rule "In competition, you can only splinter in one of the opponents suits."
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Posted 2010-March-18, 12:27

pooltuna, on Mar 18 2010, 01:10 PM, said:

jjbrr, on Mar 18 2010, 12:25 PM, said:

4nt

and how would 4NT be different over 4♠ after you splintered in ♦ or would 4♦ be natural?

It wouldn't. So what's the point in splintering if I'm taking charge of the hand anyway?
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Posted 2010-March-18, 12:33

jjbrr, on Mar 18 2010, 01:27 PM, said:

pooltuna, on Mar 18 2010, 01:10 PM, said:

jjbrr, on Mar 18 2010, 12:25 PM, said:

4nt

and how would 4NT be different over 4♠ after you splintered in ♦ or would 4♦ be natural?

It wouldn't. So what's the point in splintering if I'm taking charge of the hand anyway?

Because on other hands partner's knowledge of your shortness may help him cooperate in a grand try.

Obviously not here however.
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Posted 2010-March-18, 12:36

I was thinking 3♣ since a diamond tap may badly hurt a spade contract if partner has Hxxx or something. However that also means partner doesn't have A or K of diamonds which really isn't leaving him anything at all for his bid, so in that case he would have a 5 card suit. Therefore I agree with simple keycard.
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Posted 2010-March-18, 12:39

jjbrr, on Mar 18 2010, 01:27 PM, said:

pooltuna, on Mar 18 2010, 01:10 PM, said:

jjbrr, on Mar 18 2010, 12:25 PM, said:

4nt

and how would 4NT be different over 4♠ after you splintered in ♦ or would 4♦ be natural?

It wouldn't. So what's the point in splintering if I'm taking charge of the hand anyway?

If you can never imagine partner being involved in the final decision none. And why ask, just bid 6♠ unless you really think he will show up with a 5♠ call or if you plan to bid 7♠ over a 5♥ call.
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Posted 2010-March-18, 13:34

4NT seems canonical. Followed by the appropriate nr of spades. 5, 6 or 7.
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Posted 2010-March-18, 14:31

jjbrr, on Mar 18 2010, 05:27 PM, said:

righty 3rd seat w/r... doesn't take a rocket scientist...

yea but it's still a little crazy.
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Posted 2010-March-18, 14:34

4NT. Could be that someone is psyching, and partner actually has the KQ of spades and the diamond ace.

Certainly doesn't hurt to ask.
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Posted 2010-March-18, 15:09

4NT, and I assume ♠Q is falling or gonna be found by partner.
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Posted 2010-March-18, 15:36

Phil, on Mar 18 2010, 01:33 PM, said:

jjbrr, on Mar 18 2010, 01:27 PM, said:

pooltuna, on Mar 18 2010, 01:10 PM, said:

jjbrr, on Mar 18 2010, 12:25 PM, said:

4nt

and how would 4NT be different over 4♠ after you splintered in ♦ or would 4♦ be natural?

It wouldn't. So what's the point in splintering if I'm taking charge of the hand anyway?

Because on other hands partner's knowledge of your shortness may help him cooperate in a grand try.

Obviously not here however.

This of course is right. I meant on this specific hand.
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Posted 2010-March-18, 15:46

Since the original question is "What is your bidding plan?", not simply "What do you bid now?", and presuming that you bid 6♠ if partner has one keycard plus the Q♠ and 7♠ if partner has two keycards and the Q♠...
What do you plan to do if partner shows:
(a) 2 keycards without the Q♠,
(b) 1 keycard without the Q♠, and
( c) 0 keycards with the Q♠?
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Posted 2010-March-18, 16:09

1) 6♠.
2) 6♠.
3) 4♠.

And, since I would not ask about the ♠Q after a zero or one response to 4NT, I would not know whether partner had the ♠Q, but that is nitpicking.
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Posted 2010-March-18, 18:33

pooltuna, on Mar 19 2010, 01:10 AM, said:

jjbrr, on Mar 18 2010, 12:25 PM, said:

4nt

and how would 4NT be different over 4♠ after you splintered in ♦ or would 4♦ be natural?

2D is described as a good H raise, not as a natural bid. So a 4D bid would be natural of course.
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Posted 2010-March-19, 15:21

4D is a splinter in my world. 3D shows diamonds and is forcing.
and the result can be plotted on a graph.
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