[fuburules3]

Suppose the bidding goes

1D-P-1S-P
2D-P-2S

How strong of a hand does 2S show? Does it show more than minimal strength or is it suggesting a better place to play?

Is the 2D bidder allowed to move towards game after 2S?

[mgoetze]

This is a good one to discuss with a regular partner, but with a pickup partner I would assume a minimum with 6 (or 5 very good) spades.

Opener might still have 15-16 and with, say, Qx in spades he is certainly allowed to make another move here.

[mtvesuvius]

Yup, with a maximum and 2 (or 3, depending on your style) good spades. 2♠ is not a unilateral decision saying "I want to play here, I don't care what you have."

[fuburules3]

mtvesuvius, on 2010-November-15, 13:53, said:

Yup, with a maximum and 2 (or 3, depending on your style) good spades. 2♠ is not a unilateral decision saying "I want to play here, I don't care what you have."

What caused discontent with this bidding sequence when it came up is that one partner thought bidding on should not be allowed (except with spade support) and other partner disagreed.

Would you have bid 2D with

x
Kxx
AKQJxx
Qxx

If so, would you have bid on?

[wyman]

fuburules3, on 2010-November-15, 14:05, said:

What caused discontent with this bidding sequence when it came up is that one partner thought bidding on should not be allowed (except with spade support) and other partner disagreed.

Would you have bid 2D with

x
Kxx
AKQJxx
Qxx

If so, would you have bid on?

yes, no

[mtvesuvius]

Yes, I'd pass 2♠ now

[Gerben42]

Without prior agreement, this should show 6 - 10 HCP.
Opener can of course try for game with a fitting hand, like:

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In a regular partnership, the range will be smaller and depend on the meaning of 1♦ - 2♠. Two recommended meanings for this bid are either 5 - 8 HCP or 9 - 11 HCP with a 6-card suit. The sequence 1♦ - 1♠ - 2♦ - 2♠ would then show the range that is not shown by the jump bid.

[Fluffy]

playing nothing spacial 2♠ should normally be the final contract, only move on with fit

[P_Marlowe]

Hi,

partnership agreement, but assuming standard, 2S showes a 6 carder and a
min responding hand 6-10, and of course opener can make a slam try, if the
2S revealed a fit, than he may reevaluate his hand.

If you happen to play weak jump shifts, than usually 2S showes a stronger
hand than in standard - it could even show a inv. hand 10-12 with 6 spades.

With kind regards
Marlowe

[P_Marlowe]

fuburules3, on 2010-November-15, 14:05, said:

What caused discontent with this bidding sequence when it came up is that one partner thought bidding on should not be allowed (except with spade support) and other partner disagreed.

Would you have bid 2D with

x
Kxx
AKQJxx
Qxx

If so, would you have bid on?

2D is ok, for some, the hand would be strong enough for 3D, but
2D is ok, now you have to pass, the 2S bid did not make your hand
stronger, and 2S showes a 6 carder.

With kind regards
Marlowe

[FrancesHinden]

In traditional bidding (or at least as I learnt it)

1♦ - 1♠
2♦ - 2♠

2♠ was (very slightly) constructive, and opener could move on a suitable hand - usually an absolute maximum, good controls and a doubleton spade

As others have said, some people play an immediate 2S response as showing this sort of hand (about 4-8 with 6 spades), and hence for them 2S here is very constructive.

[han]

For me it is not constructive at all, opener will bid only very rarely.

The hands that some of the people bid 2D on here are amazing, the 15-count with a solid 6-card suit is way too strong for my taste, and Gerben's 14-count has turned into a gameforce.

[mgoetze]

han, on 2010-November-16, 09:04, said:

The hands that some of the people bid 2D on here are amazing, the 15-count with a solid 6-card suit is way too strong for my taste, and Gerben's 14-count has turned into a gameforce.

Maybe you are just too used to playing Gazzilli or Riton.

[Phil]

han, on 2010-November-16, 09:04, said:

For me it is not constructive at all, opener will bid only very rarely.

The hands that some of the people bid 2D on here are amazing, the 15-count with a solid 6-card suit is way too strong for my taste, and Gerben's 14-count has turned into a gameforce slam try.

FYP