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Is it obvious or it is a style?
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Posted 2010-December-01, 14:50
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Posted 2010-December-01, 15:09
I would bid 2♠ forcing. If you play NFB you have a tough problem you are probably forced to bid 3♠ fit jump.
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Posted 2010-December-01, 15:37
IMO you are overbidding a lot gerben, I'd bid 2♠ NF and if I have the chance some diamonds next
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Posted 2010-December-01, 15:43
Fluffy, on 2010-December-01, 15:37, said:
IMO you are overbidding a lot gerben, I'd bid 2♠ NF and if I have the chance some diamonds next
must be nice to play adjective bridge....add an Ace and you can bid '2♠ forcing'.
If partner's 1♦ promised 4+, I'd bid 2♠ (forcing for sure...I mean how many experts play NFBs these days....a small proportion), otherwise I double and hope to be able to survive....can't pass....my clubs are too short, which often means partner's are too long for him to reopen....not to mention the bidding problem I have if he does by way of a double. I guess I'd cue bid then.
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Posted 2010-December-01, 15:48
Easy 2♠. Great dummy for diamonds, and nice hand if partner fits spades.
Come to think of it, I'm not sure a NF 2♠ really does justice.
Come to think of it, I'm not sure a NF 2♠ really does justice.
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Posted 2010-December-01, 16:08
mikeh, on 2010-December-01, 15:43, said:
If partner's 1♦ promised 4+, I'd bid 2♠
you mean unless its some kind of nebulous diamond right ?
I mean you dont mind it to be better minor 1 diamond.
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Posted 2010-December-01, 16:37
It does say it's a precision diamond, but I've played versions of precision where that means a minimum of anywhere between 0 and 4 of them, so I have no idea how likely partner is to actually hold them, and this makes it quite awkward to judge my hand.
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Posted 2010-December-01, 16:41
Opener told us that 2♠ was non forcing. So let's accept that. If so, 2♠ looks more or less right on the money. will bid diamonds next round, on the 4 level if necessary.
Oh now I see that 1♦ is "precision". I assume it means that it's 2+. In that case 2♠ is a very good bid and I don't see what anyone dislikes about it.
Oh now I see that 1♦ is "precision". I assume it means that it's 2+. In that case 2♠ is a very good bid and I don't see what anyone dislikes about it.
... and I can prove it with my usual, flawless logic.
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Posted 2010-December-01, 17:48
lesh, on 2010-December-01, 14:50, said:
What is your call X or 2sp - non forcing
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Posted 2010-December-01, 18:20
gwnn, on 2010-December-01, 16:41, said:
Opener told us that 2♠ was non forcing.
Then kindly change my answer to ABSTAIN! lol
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Posted 2010-December-01, 23:11
2S for me, and its not a super max for the bid.
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Posted 2010-December-02, 01:56
2S is definitely forcing.
What now when partner bids 2NT, with Qx KQxx Jxx AJxx
Partner definitely can have clubs, he can have just about anything. This is a downside of precision.
I'm doubling in a heart beat, and bidding 2S over 2H.
What now when partner bids 2NT, with Qx KQxx Jxx AJxx
Partner definitely can have clubs, he can have just about anything. This is a downside of precision.
I'm doubling in a heart beat, and bidding 2S over 2H.
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Posted 2010-December-02, 04:48
lesh, on 2010-December-01, 14:50, said:
What is your call X or 2sp - non forcing
rduran1216, on 2010-December-02, 01:56, said:
2S is definitely forcing.
Lovely to see you read the OP very carefully!
For those who didn't realize yet: 1♦ was alerted as Precision, and you're obligated to play NFB's. If you can't accept that, don't respond...
I'd just bid 2♠, I don't see a reason to Dbl when I have an offensive hand with a decent suit. It doesn't mean the auction is over.
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Posted 2010-December-02, 04:51
mikeh, on 2010-December-01, 15:43, said:
must be nice to play adjective bridge....add an Ace and you can bid '2♠ forcing'.
blah blah blah
blah blah blah
The OP stated that 2S was non-forcing.
Please note: I am interested in boring, bog standard, 2/1.
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Posted 2010-December-02, 07:01
Is X forcing? I assume 2D is not? Assume 2H is not?
2S is specified not! 3C is not?
Is 2NT a D-raise invite+? Is 3S fit bid?
Awful to not have a 2-bid description cheaply
as that must be common: I have this suit and D-fit.
Is this a passed hand structure?
2S is specified not! 3C is not?
Is 2NT a D-raise invite+? Is 3S fit bid?
Awful to not have a 2-bid description cheaply
as that must be common: I have this suit and D-fit.
Is this a passed hand structure?
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Posted 2010-December-02, 07:09
Is this question intended to invite the "it is non-forcing"
BUT partner will field the table and rebid his diamonds when that is right.
Won't push 4S with his good fit by "table feel" WHICH EQUALS STYLE.
BUT partner will field the table and rebid his diamonds when that is right.
Won't push 4S with his good fit by "table feel" WHICH EQUALS STYLE.
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Posted 2010-December-02, 07:49
dake50, on 2010-December-02, 07:01, said:
I have this suit and D-fit.
Which ♦ fit??? Opener shows 2+♦!
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Posted 2010-December-05, 13:20
In a context where partner's 1D was Precision, I am happy with 2S non-forcing.
I don't get all these vicious complaints about playing 2S as non-forcing. I know that NFBs aren't very popular any more, but
(i) I play them in one partnership, and they work fine
(ii) what are becoming much more popular are 2-level transfers by responder, because all those people who gave up NFBs now hate the fact that they can't tell partner where their long suit is after an overcall.
I don't get all these vicious complaints about playing 2S as non-forcing. I know that NFBs aren't very popular any more, but
(i) I play them in one partnership, and they work fine
(ii) what are becoming much more popular are 2-level transfers by responder, because all those people who gave up NFBs now hate the fact that they can't tell partner where their long suit is after an overcall.
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