[MrAce]

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Team match, 1♦ is standart and can be 3 cards. (unfortunately we dont know the style of preempter, first time opponent)

EDIT: IT is ok to answer it according to your regular pdship agreement, explenation will be appreciated.

[CSGibson]

I'm probably a 5N bidder. I don't know what is right, but I think slam will have play opposite the right strain. I think 6♣ is also possible for some, but for me that would indicate a diamond fit.

[Cyberyeti]

We play takeout doubles all the way up, and to make one at this level must require something like this.

[Hanoi5]

5NT, pick up a slam. I'm not sure 6♣ is ♦ support, but partner might think so, 5NT to make sure the Majors are in the picture.

[Hanoi5]

double post

[Fluffy]

Double and raise partner's bid its fine for me, sadly he will pass with balanced 4432 but I don't wanna play slam opposite 3244 either

[MrAce]

Fluffy, on 2011-January-18, 04:27, said:

Double and raise partner's bid its fine for me, sadly he will pass with balanced 4432 but I don't wanna play slam opposite 3244 either

[gwnn]

Cyberyeti, on 2011-January-18, 03:53, said:

We play takeout doubles all the way up, and to make one at this level must require something like this.

And do you pass in peace with

ATxx
KQxx
KTx
xx

?

[pooltuna]

What do you mean you don't play negative doubles through 6♦?? You really can't stand the pressure of a 6♣ call since it could so easily be wrong so I will take the only other realistic option which is X.

[karlson]

Double (takeout). Obviously I expect it to get passed, but I'm not so confident of making a slam on this hand, or getting to the right one.

[mtvesuvius]

I'd bid 5N, but I'm hyper aggressive in these auctions usually, and often when I shouldn't be.

[rduran1216]

I think 5NT is the clear winner.

[Phil]

5N. Double is too subtle for me.

[Cyberyeti]

gwnn, on 2011-January-18, 06:09, said:

And do you pass in peace with

ATxx
KQxx
KTx
xx

?

Yes, partner will double most of the time if we're making anything. Not sure what I do if he does X however.

Why do I want to force to slam with 5N first time opposite what could be a 4432 12 count.

[gwnn]

Sorry I wasn't perhaps clear: I asked about responder's double, not opener.

If your partner opens 1♦ and RHO bids 5♣ and you hold

ATxx
KQxx
KTx
xx

do you pass?

[mtvesuvius]

Cyberyeti, on 2011-January-18, 10:30, said:

Yes, partner will double most of the time if we're making anything. Not sure what I do if he does X however.

Why do I want to force to slam with 5N first time opposite what could be a 4432 12 count.

How about if we are collecting 500?

Obv my 5N gives up on this too, but passing a hand like Csaba's seems absurd. How is partner supposed to judge whether you have a 0 count or a balanced 13?

[whereagles]

Dbl if RHO is nuts, 5NT otherwise.

[rogerclee]

Double, I think people are over-estimating how good slam will be opposite random 12-14 balanced hands. This is an auction where RHO is often void in a suit, or the first two tricks can go ace and a ruff. It's not that surprising in this situation to go down at the 6 level due to bad breaks. We could also just not have enough firepower to make anything at the 6 level, we do have a 12 count after all.

5N can work, I don't think it's terrible, in fact it's probably good opposite diamond 1 suiters and hands with 4M+5♦, but I am just not that optimistic.

[ceeb]

rogerclee, on 2011-January-18, 11:09, said:

Double, I think people are over-estimating how good slam will be opposite random 12-14 balanced hands...

I agree we are very thin for 5NT, but doubling and likely defending with a void is also precarious -- not so much that 5♣ is likely to make, but in that it invites a very random outcome. 5NT at least approximates our actual hand and so gives the chance for a very good result if partner has good offense.

[whereagles]

Though decision? Well, news flash: preempts work