BBO Discussion Forums: What do you lead? - BBO Discussion Forums

Jump to content

  • 2 Pages +
  • 1
  • 2
  • You cannot start a new topic
  • You cannot reply to this topic

What do you lead?

Poll: What do you lead? (35 member(s) have cast votes)

What do you lead?

  1. Spade (4 votes [11.43%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 11.43%

  2. Heart (15 votes [42.86%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 42.86%

  3. Club (15 votes [42.86%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 42.86%

  4. I wouldn't be on lead because I bid above 3N (1 votes [2.86%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 2.86%

Vote Guests cannot vote

#21 User is offline   JLOGIC 

  • 2011 Poster of The Year winner
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • Group: Advanced Members
  • Posts: 6,002
  • Joined: 2010-July-08
  • Gender:Male

Posted 2011-June-19, 20:36

View Postawm, on 2011-June-19, 15:36, said:

While a heart lead is our best chance at getting down four, partner's major suit holdings on the actual hand could just as easily be the other way.


Nope!
0

#22 User is offline   Phil 

  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • Group: Advanced Members
  • Posts: 10,092
  • Joined: 2008-December-11
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:North Texas, USA
  • Interests:Mountain Biking

Posted 2011-June-19, 20:41

Its seems like there are plenty of spade fragments partner can have where he isn't doubling 3, where we can still develop a source of tricks there.

Partner isn't depending on my hand for tricks.
Hi y'all!

Winner - BBO Challenge bracket #6 - February, 2017.
0

#23 User is offline   JLOGIC 

  • 2011 Poster of The Year winner
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • Group: Advanced Members
  • Posts: 6,002
  • Joined: 2010-July-08
  • Gender:Male

Posted 2011-June-19, 21:18

View PostPhil, on 2011-June-19, 20:41, said:

Its seems like there are plenty of spade fragments partner can have where he isn't doubling 3, where we can still develop a source of tricks there.


I agree with you that a spade lead is not 0 %
0

#24 User is offline   whereagles 

  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • Group: Advanced Members
  • Posts: 14,900
  • Joined: 2004-May-11
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Portugal
  • Interests:Everything!

Posted 2011-June-19, 23:00

hmmm... unless opener got his reply wrong, I can't believe pard has diamonds, so he has cards and some sort of strange hand. I think I would have bid 4D now.. lol
0

#25 User is offline   MrAce 

  • VIP Member
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • Group: Advanced Members
  • Posts: 6,971
  • Joined: 2009-November-14
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Houston, TX

Posted 2011-June-19, 23:09

View Postawm, on 2011-June-19, 15:36, said:

I voted for a club lead.

In general I don't think this is a lightner double. It's just "we're beating this" -- it suggests control of diamonds and a bunch of other tricks. These other tricks could just be in the form of a lot of high cards (as seems likely here, and was the case on the actual hand) or could be in the form of a running side suit.

If partner just has tricks it may not matter much what I lead. But if partner has a suit of his own it's almost surely clubs. There are some hand types where we need a club lead to set (i.e. say partner has the K, a major suit ace, and five good clubs missing one honor). While a heart lead is our best chance at getting down four, partner's major suit holdings on the actual hand could just as easily be the other way. However, partner having nothing in clubs given my shortage there would be quite surprising.


Agreed, except..

View Postawm, on 2011-June-19, 15:36, said:

While a heart lead is our best chance at getting down four, partner's major suit holdings on the actual hand could just as easily be the other way.


I just cant imagine a player, who has a DBL to final 3NT, and did not DBL an artificial bid at 3 level with AQJx, do u really think he may have this ?
"Genius has its own limitations, however stupidity has no such boundaries!"
"It's only when a mosquito lands on your testicles that you realize there is always a way to solve problems without using violence!"

"Well to be perfectly honest, in my humble opinion, of course without offending anyone who thinks differently from my point of view, but also by looking into this matter in a different perspective and without being condemning of one's view's and by trying to make it objectified, and by considering each and every one's valid opinion, I honestly believe that I completely forgot what I was going to say."





0

#26 User is offline   jdeegan 

  • PipPipPipPipPipPip
  • Group: Advanced Members
  • Posts: 1,427
  • Joined: 2005-August-12
  • Gender:Male
  • Interests:Economics
    Finance
    Bridge bidding theory
    Cooking
    Downhill skiing

Posted 2011-June-21, 00:43

View Postawm, on 2011-June-19, 15:36, said:

I voted for a club lead.

In general I don't think this is a lightner double. It's just "we're beating this" -- it suggests control of diamonds and a bunch of other tricks. These other tricks could just be in the form of a lot of high cards (as seems likely here, and was the case on the actual hand) or could be in the form of a running side suit.

If partner just has tricks it may not matter much what I lead. But if partner has a suit of his own it's almost surely clubs. There are some hand types where we need a club lead to set (i.e. say partner has the K, a major suit ace, and five good clubs missing one honor). While a heart lead is our best chance at getting down four, partner's major suit holdings on the actual hand could just as easily be the other way. However, partner having nothing in clubs given my shortage there would be quite surprising.

:D yeah! I was going to post, but your comment states my view very eloquently.
0

#27 User is offline   bftboy 

  • PipPipPipPip
  • Group: Full Members
  • Posts: 117
  • Joined: 2009-October-19

Posted 2011-June-21, 00:51

100% of the blame to S for his silly dbl. And another 50% to N for thinking about leading anything other than a heart.
0

#28 User is offline   Free 

  • mmm Duvel
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • Group: Advanced Members
  • Posts: 10,728
  • Joined: 2003-July-30
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Belgium
  • Interests:Duvel, Whisky

Posted 2011-June-21, 06:57

Ridiculous reasoning by North, anything but a seems obvious. I'd lead a because I don't think partner can have enough tricks in to Dbl.
"It may be rude to leave to go to the bathroom, but it's downright stupid to sit there and piss yourself" - blackshoe
1

  • 2 Pages +
  • 1
  • 2
  • You cannot start a new topic
  • You cannot reply to this topic

1 User(s) are reading this topic
0 members, 1 guests, 0 anonymous users