[han]

xx
xx
xxx
AKQ98x

1D - (2D*) - 3C - (p)
4D - (p) - ??

2D showed both majors, 3C is natural and non-forcing.
4D was intended as a natural slam try, should it be?

Now 4H and 4S are cuebids, 4NT is RKC for diamonds and 5C is clubs. What's your call?

[helene_t]

can't we have 4♥ as RKC and 4NT as a heart cue? If we ask with 4NT and p has three key cards we still can't ask for the queen. Oh well, after the preempt there is a good chance that the queen is onside.

My first inclination was to punt 6. Might as well try 4NT just in case it is 7.

[JLOGIC]

Can I really not bid 4N and expect my partner know this is a slam try with no major suit control and not keycard? I bid 3C non forcing! If I was playing with Dr. H Peters III, I would bid it for sure.

[han]

Imagine that you were indeed playing with that partner, but you yourself are somebody else and your partner would never expect you to bid 4NT as anything but RKC.

If that doesn't help: imagine that your only choices are 5D and 6D. Which would you pick?

[Free]

5♦

[JLOGIC]

 han, on 2011-June-15, 04:47, said:

Imagine that you were indeed playing with that partner, but you yourself are somebody else and your partner would never expect you to bid 4NT as anything but RKC.

If that doesn't help: imagine that your only choices are 5D and 6D. Which would you pick?

Haha, well, I would probably bid 4H. That way some of the time we're off the AK they will double at least and hopefully we can stop (and maybe partner can bid 4N-5N and we can get to our grand).

If my options were 5D and 6D I would bid 6.

Maybe 5C should be a cuebid under these conditions, but I would not risk that either.

[mtvesuvius]

I like 4♥ on paper, but probably wouldn't think it up at the table. If I had to pick between 5 and 6, I'd try 6.

[jogs]

 Free, on 2011-June-15, 05:04, said:

5♦

5♦. I thought i would be the only conservative player.
2=2 in the majors is very negative. Would not be shocked
if 5♦ failed.

[mtvesuvius]

 jogs, on 2011-June-15, 21:25, said:

5♦. I thought i would be the only conservative player.
2=2 in the majors is very negative. Would not be shocked
if 5♦ failed.

If only there was some long running suit to pitch those losers on!

[jonottawa]

If partner needs more than this he's gonna have to reevaluate his hand evaluation. Surely I'd have bid 2♥ with as much as xx xx Qxx AKQxxx, no? If partner was playing me for a specific singleton, and solid ♣ and 3 card ♦ support, we'll have to talk about it later. I don't see how I can not bid blackwood here (given the choices.) Pard is not staring at 2+ fast losers in 2 suits and bidding like this opposite a nonforcing 3♣ bid. If he's insane and has Axx Axx Axxxxx x I hope his suits break. I expect something like x Ax AKQxxxx xxx or better.

[han]

At the table your partner (me) had Axx AKx AK109xx x. Diamonds split 4-0 onside, but with clubs 3-3 that still meant 6D makes.

Afterwards I thought I should have bid 3NT.

[Cyberyeti]

 mtvesuvius, on 2011-June-15, 21:59, said:

If only there was some long running suit to pitch those losers on!

Fine if partner has both aces.

I would bid 5♦ and expect partner to bid 6 on his actual hand. He might have held AQx, KQx in the majors, he should realise he holds close to the best possible major suit holdings here.

[Free]

 mtvesuvius, on 2011-June-15, 21:59, said:

If only there was some long running suit to pitch those losers on!

True, but there's also a tempo issue. Opps have the lead, so they have tempo to (maybe) cash 2 or more tricks before we get a chance to run our long suit...

[andy_h]

Could I have bid 2H over 2D showing a good hand with clubs? Despite the ragged shape (although good that I have 3 diamonds) I prefer to overbid a little in competition when I could have made the NF 3C with KQ-7th club and out. Having said that I think 4D sets diamonds as trumps (with other diamond hands bidding 3M) so I will cue 5♣.

[Echognome]

I would prefer 5NT to 6♦ if it wasn't interpreted as GSF. As it wasn't listed as one of the options (even to reject because it means GSF), I will assume I will not get much support. I should mention that I would rather bid 4NT (slam try), but 5NT would be a choice I would consider.

[Vampyr]

 Echognome, on 2011-June-16, 11:50, said:

I would prefer 5NT to 6♦

So would I.

Quote

if it wasn't interpreted as GSF.

I should hope not!

[cherdano]

 Echognome, on 2011-June-16, 11:50, said:

I would prefer 5NT to 6♦ if it wasn't interpreted as GSF. As it wasn't listed as one of the options (even to reject because it means GSF), I will assume I will not get much support. I should mention that I would rather bid 4NT (slam try), but 5NT would be a choice I would consider.

You want to bid 5NT as choice of slams?
Why??
We have unexpected 3-card support in the suit that partner set as trumps all by himself. We have a potential ruff in two suits.

[jogs]

 han, on 2011-June-16, 01:20, said:

At the table your partner (me) had Axx AKx AK109xx x. Diamonds split 4-0 onside, but with clubs 3-3 that still meant 6D makes.

Afterwards I thought I should have bid 3NT.

I like this auction.

1♦ - (2♦) - 3♣ - (p)
3♥ - (p) - 4♦ - (p)
4♠ - (p) - 5♣ - (p)
6♦ - all pass

Think you didn't need 3-3 clubs. RHO had to have 3+ clubs.
Which he should have in this auction. Did dummy have the
♦8? You can pitch two spades and ruff a heart.

[han]

I've heard others say that partner should bid 4D over 3H. I'm not sure I believe it. Do people bid 3 small before they rebid there solid 6-card suit?

[gwnn]

sorry cherdano I did it again. these damn buttons are very close to each other