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#1 User is offline   rduran1216 

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Posted 2011-July-29, 01:04



Agree with the calls so far?

Do you pass, correct to 6nt, or bid on at all?
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Posted 2011-July-29, 01:40

Doesn't 6S show 2 keys with SQ and the expected void?
Looks as if 6S has many threads to make that 6N does not.
D-ruffs here, eg.
Leave 6S.
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Posted 2011-July-29, 02:37

Opener, per the title had Namyats available and did not use it. Sounds like he had too many tricks (like 9). The only void he would admit to over 4NT would be a minor suit void. So, if he thinks he has nine tricks and a club void, 7 seems easy. If the Opps have 12 diamonds, I guess I won't make it.
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Posted 2011-July-29, 10:01

Do you have any agreements about void showing responses to RKC? Wait, 6, doesn't exist. Partner is off his rocker.

I will bid 7N. When we are finished, I would simply say either "I'm a genius, I figured out your 6 call on AKQxxxxxx, void, xx, Ax", or, "tough luck partner, you only had AKQxxxxx, void, Kxx, Kx". Maybe next time we play, we can review our 1430 responses.

Now, If I am playing with someone with merely half a brain, instead of no brain, I would expect AKQxxxxx, Qx, Kxx, void that is afraid of me passing 5, however even this hand should bid 5N to show an even number of keys and an unknown void.

Tell your partner L****l to stop bidding like this, or stop playing with him.
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Posted 2011-July-29, 10:42

Partner is either a very bad player or a good player who expects us to look deeply into the hand. Our possession of these minor high cards makes me think the former.

The main problem to solve is why he make that 6 bid in an auction in which, as an unlimited hand, we took control.

I am going to infer that, since I assume he is not a good player, he fears that showing me his void via 6 could be seen as natural. So I am going to guess that he has something like AKQxxxx void KQx AKx and I am going to bid 7. Sure, if I am right, 7N is at least as good, but I don't have the confidence that my analysis suggests B-) And if he has a club void, 7 may still come home while 7N, at best, needs a lucky lead.

However this turns out, I am later going to suggest to partner that when an unlimited hand takes control, the other hand stays in the boat and doesn't try to wrestle control back.
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Posted 2011-July-29, 15:01

View Postrduran1216, on 2011-July-29, 01:04, said:



Agree with the calls so far?

Do you pass, correct to 6nt, or bid on at all?


No. I don't agree with the 6S bid.
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Posted 2011-July-29, 21:09

Opps, prd opens with 2 which is forcing to game bid and answers my Blackwood that bananas were on sale at the local market; why would he ever do that.
My guess is that his cards were too good to namyats opening and that he cant give me reasonable description bout his hand by answering my blackwood aka he has 12 tricks in his hand regardless what i have in mine and now he pleads me to make an educated guess wheter or not i can help him with that one loser.
Sice he refuse to answer my blackwood he has a void and i think actually two voids in his hand.
My guess is that he has 10 running in hand and 3 card suit namely KQJ. And my bid is 7; i really hope i can end this ordeal to words "elementary my dear Watson" :lol:
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Posted 2011-July-30, 01:43

View PostPhil, on 2011-July-29, 10:01, said:

Do you have any agreements about void showing responses to RKC? Wait, 6, doesn't exist. Partner is off his rocker.

I will bid 7N. When we are finished, I would simply say either "I'm a genius, I figured out your 6 call on AKQxxxxxx, void, xx, Ax", or, "tough luck partner, you only had AKQxxxxx, void, Kxx, Kx". Maybe next time we play, we can review our 1430 responses.

Now, If I am playing with someone with merely half a brain, instead of no brain, I would expect AKQxxxxx, Qx, Kxx, void that is afraid of me passing 5, however even this hand should bid 5N to show an even number of keys and an unknown void.

Tell your partner L****l to stop bidding like this, or stop playing with him.


6S does not exist. However, it sounds like partner has a wild hand, with solid spades and some unknown void. From my perspective, would partner be doing this with a void in the only suit I've shown?

I raised to 7, under the guise that partner must have a club void, and solid spades. Really how good could my hand be in that event.

this is partner's hand

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Posted 2011-July-30, 08:27


rduran1216 asked "Agree with the calls so far? Do you pass, correct to 6nt, or bid on at all?"

IMO 7 = 10, 7N = 7, Pass = 6, 6N = 5. In spite of likely bad breaks, partner was scared that you might pass his RKC response. Or perhaps he wanted to avoid a "hesitation Blackwood" auction. Hence he is likely to have super-solid trumps and possibly a void somewhere. Partner is too good for Namyats, so has 9+ tricks. I have 3 top tricks and fewer than 6 losers. IMO, failing to bid the grand would be a no-confidence vote.

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