[microcap]

As you long time fans know, Rex and I are seldom on the same book when we bid, much less on the same page. We missed a simple slam as follows:

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1♣ could be as few as 2, 2♦ was game force, 2NT showed a non minimum hand with stoppers in the red suits. I couldn't believe Rex didnt bid 6 clubs with his monster. He felt my 5♣ was strongly uninterested in slam, that I should cue bid at the 3 level or bid 4♣ which would be stronger. I thought 5♣ painted a perfect picture of my hand.

Comments?

[whereagles]

My comment is that 2NT is a gross misdescription (3♣ would have been better, since a 7-carder is quite different from the x4x5/2xx6 2NT suggests) and 5♣ a total waste of bidding space.

[benlessard]

I like 2Nt since i want to grab Nt to suggest a pos stopper in D. Over 3C however i like my hand a lot having 7C is quite rare here.

There is 2 reason partner bid 3C
1 he think 6C is possible
2- He thinks 3Nt might not be the best game and want to keep 4S/5C in the picture (because hes short in D or H).

5C simply make no sense then.

[wank]

well done, rex. oh dear, jay

[robkat]

I prefer 3C to 2NT. You can always continue with 3NT over partner's 3S bid. 2NT is somewhat discouraging for club contracts. From N's perspective you could be off 2 A's.

IMO, 3C is a slam try not anything else. Partner already asked and you said NT. Why should he ask again after you gave your opinion? If you agree, then clearly you should bid 6 with your hand.

Rob

[nige1]

Agree with everybody that South is mostly to blame.

South has already suggested no-trump as a contract, so his 5♣ should be a mild slam-try. Exactly what it shows depends on agreement but perhaps something like
♠ x ♥ Qx ♦ KQx ♣ AJxxxxx: good clubs but no convenient first round control.

Nevertheless, when minor-suit slams are in the frame, bidding space is at a premium. IMO, over North's 3♣ exploration, South's leap to 5♣, with his actual slam-suitable hand, is profligate and stultifying.

[Fluffy]

2NT is debatable, 5♣ is insane. NEVER bid 5m when aprtner makes a slam try and its unlimitted. and I mean NEVER. Because more often than you think he has a big monster that all that needs to do is keycard before bidding grand.


EDIT: I forgot to say, considering you hand with 7 card suit, a side ace, a protected ♦K and club intermediates given that you have already put yourself in a 11-14 context as a dead minimum is one of the worse judgement decisions I've seen from an experienced player.

[Zelandakh]

Fluffy, on 2011-July-28, 15:08, said:

2NT is debatable, 5♣ is insane. NEVER bid 5m when aprtner makes a slam try and its unlimitted. and I mean NEVER. Because more often than you think he has a big monster that all that needs to do is keycard before bidding grand.

Would it be OK if 5C specifically denied any keycards as well as showing a bad hand?