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what to bid in 4th seat with 0346 after 1S?
#1
Posted 2011-October-15, 12:27
non-vulnerable, IMP, SAYC, LHO dealer
♠ -
♥ KJ8
♦ KJTx
♣ KQxxxx
1♠ - p - p - ?
Question 1: What is your choice?
Imagine you bid 2♣ and the bidding continues:
2♠ - p - p - ?
Question 2a: What now?
Question 2b: Do you treat X in this sequence as take/out (showing something like -346, otherwise first round X with eg -445) or penalty?
♠ -
♥ KJ8
♦ KJTx
♣ KQxxxx
1♠ - p - p - ?
Question 1: What is your choice?
Imagine you bid 2♣ and the bidding continues:
2♠ - p - p - ?
Question 2a: What now?
Question 2b: Do you treat X in this sequence as take/out (showing something like -346, otherwise first round X with eg -445) or penalty?
#2
Posted 2011-October-15, 12:46
1. 2c
2. 2NT (delay unusual)...delay double would have 4 hearts and longer clubs, not wanting to double in the balance seat the first time.
2. 2NT (delay unusual)...delay double would have 4 hearts and longer clubs, not wanting to double in the balance seat the first time.
"Bidding Spades to show spades can work well." (Kenberg)
#3
Posted 2011-October-15, 14:26
There is a lot to be said for doubling the first time since balancing in a suit tends to show less than full opening values.
Having balanced with 2♣, I would double when in balancing seat for the second time. It is clearly for takeout.
Having balanced with 2♣, I would double when in balancing seat for the second time. It is clearly for takeout.
#4
Posted 2011-October-15, 15:26
ArtK78, on 2011-October-15, 14:26, said:
There is a lot to be said for doubling the first time since balancing in a suit tends to show less than full opening values.
I don't think opening values should be the benchmark for balancing action. For some of us, a balancing suit bid has an upper limit of about a king less than it would in direct seat.
This hand fits it with that, and a double could be brutal with no spades and only 3 hearts.
"Bidding Spades to show spades can work well." (Kenberg)
#5
Posted 2011-October-15, 15:56
3C in balancing seat with opening values and a 6+ card suit.
Don Stenmark
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"imo by far in bridge the least understood concept is how to bid over a jump-shift
( 1M-1NT!-3m-?? )." ....Justin Lall
" Did someone mention relays? " .... Zelandakh
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#6
Posted 2011-October-15, 17:39
If you are prepared to have partner pass a X then thats the bid you should make.
If not then 3♣ or 2NT, its a toss up for me.
If not then 3♣ or 2NT, its a toss up for me.
#7
Posted 2011-October-15, 19:37
2C followed by a x over 2S.
"The King of Hearts a broadsword bears, the Queen of Hearts a rose." W. H. Auden.
#8
Posted 2011-October-16, 03:04
1. 2C
2a. Double
2b. Take-out, typically at least 335 in the other 3 suits (respond pretty much as if partner has 1336).
2a. Double
2b. Take-out, typically at least 335 in the other 3 suits (respond pretty much as if partner has 1336).
(-: Zel :-)
#9
Posted 2011-October-16, 04:27
I know I'd double first time, but I'd have a big problem second round, havin bid 2♣ its so obvious to double again althouh the values are pehaps minimum or sub-minimum
#11
Posted 2011-October-17, 12:14
2♣ and dbl later if needed for me.
Suit is not good enough for direct 3♣ and this hand has more potentials than just putting all eggs into ♣ basket.
Suit is not good enough for direct 3♣ and this hand has more potentials than just putting all eggs into ♣ basket.
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#12
Posted 2011-October-18, 01:55
1. 2♣, although my preference is slowly shifting to Dbl.
2a. Dbl
2b. takeout
2a. Dbl
2b. takeout
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