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Posted 2012-February-16, 20:30



comments?
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Posted 2012-February-16, 20:46

South some %age> 50$
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Posted 2012-February-16, 20:47

South likes to be declarer?

Is he the fodder or the mudder?
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Posted 2012-February-16, 21:01

I'm not thrilled with 3N - I think 4♥ is clear on S's hand with the quick tricks in the minors and the spade ruffs available.
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Posted 2012-February-16, 21:31

 aguahombre, on 2012-February-16, 20:47, said:

South likes to be declarer?

Is he the fodder or the mudder?


I'm the fodder :(
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Posted 2012-February-16, 21:47

 jillybean, on 2012-February-16, 21:31, said:

I'm the fodder :(

In any case, I am sure you are not the one who bid 3nt
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Posted 2012-February-16, 21:53

 jillybean, on 2012-February-16, 21:31, said:

I'm the fodder :(


I feel like I had a hand like this recently. ;-)

All I can say is, I know South is a very good player and after some more time and experience in the partnership, N/S will do much better next time a hand like this comes up!

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Posted 2012-February-16, 22:09

 aguahombre, on 2012-February-16, 21:47, said:

In any case, I am sure you are not the one who bid 3nt

I wanted to play... bad, bad, bad
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Posted 2012-February-16, 23:17

 jillybean, on 2012-February-16, 22:09, said:

I wanted to play... bad, bad, bad

That would match the bidding :lol:
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Posted 2012-February-17, 00:06

I don't understand 3D. Why not 2NT? I certainly do not understand 3NT. Why not 4H which is soooooooo obvious?
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Posted 2012-February-17, 06:17

 jillybean, on 2012-February-16, 22:09, said:

I wanted to play... bad, bad, bad


I propose you and the hog swap usernames.
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Posted 2012-February-17, 06:27

Great biding. It makes you declarer which is a success for any partnership.

If a mere mortal had been seated south however, 3 Nt had been very bad.

3 ♦ is just justified if you have no NT bid to show GF values with good stoopers in the minors.
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Posted 2012-February-17, 08:58

3D is good here to check for the 5th heart in North. But once South finds it, he ignores it anyway... ugh. 4H is clear.

As for opening that North hand... semi-ugh

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Posted 2012-February-17, 10:08

I'll join the crowd questioning why bid 3nt rather than 4♥ after finding out ♥ and 5-3 when both hands are unbalanced.
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Posted 2012-February-17, 10:41

 neilkaz, on 2012-February-17, 10:08, said:

I'll join the crowd questioning why bid 3nt rather than 4♥ after finding out ♥ and 5-3 when both hands are unbalanced.

I've aleady it bad,bad,bad :( Thinking I want to play the hand is one thing, not thinkng through that it's an unlikely contract is terrible.
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Posted 2012-February-17, 11:24

 ahydra, on 2012-February-17, 08:58, said:

3D is good here to check for the 5th heart in North. But once South finds it, he ignores it anyway... ugh. 4H is clear.

As for opening that North hand... semi-ugh

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Posted 2012-February-17, 11:29

Guess who was north? :blink:
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Posted 2012-February-17, 12:45

I don't understand those who are critical of North for opening this hand. Does it not meet the rule of 20? Or if you prefer, the rule of 22 (rule of 20 + 2QT)? It figures to be a 6 loser hand. Seems to me that this fits the criteria for an opening bid.
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Posted 2012-February-17, 13:25

 jillybean, on 2012-February-17, 11:29, said:

Guess who was north? :blink:


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Posted 2012-February-17, 13:27

 jh51, on 2012-February-17, 12:45, said:

I don't understand those who are critical of North for opening this hand. Does it not meet the rule of 20? Or if you prefer, the rule of 22 (rule of 20 + 2QT)? It figures to be a 6 loser hand. Seems to me that this fits the criteria for an opening bid.


Actually 2.5 QT's if you consider AQ to be 1.5 quickies, and I always do; particularly if the hand also contains the 10, which it does. In fact there's an argument for calling that 1.75 or even 2 quick tricks. The fact that all 10 HCP and all 2/2.5 QT's are in the 2 five-card suits makes it even better.
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