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To Slam Or Not To Slam partner asks for aces, you have a void in a suit in which partner does

#1 User is offline   luckyloser 

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Posted 2012-February-24, 01:39

Your hand:

KQJxx
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AJxx
Qxxx


you open 1 and the bidding goes (opps silent):

1 - 2NT (4 card supp, gameforce, maybe slam)
3(sing or void) - 4(cue)
4 - 4 NT
???

partner has shown a strong raise with 4-card support and a control. he has denied the A (no cue after 4) and has slam interest; he now asks for Aces (roman keycard), it seems Aces are his main concern now.
your correct bid now is 5, showing 2 Aces (A and the trump K) plus the trump Q (you haven´t agreed upon how to show a void). partner knows you are short in but not that you are void.

your 4NT answers show (5 Aces): 03,14,2,2+Q

do you bid 5 or something else and why?
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Posted 2012-February-24, 09:11

Can not partner have the HA? He doesn't have to cuebid - perhaps he only wanted to hear that you had a diamond control.

So I wouldn't worry about showing the void if you don't have responses for that. Just bid 5S.

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Posted 2012-February-24, 09:42

We use

6, 2+Q+void

5N=2 no Q+ a void

not sure if this is standard or best ?

Where 3 has already pinpointed the shortage, I'd probably usesomething like:

5N=2 no Q, void and at least one side K
6m=2+Q+that K
6M=2+-Q no side K
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Posted 2012-February-24, 12:00

Cyber.... You sure have a lot of bids to show 2 key cards + void, etc.

So, how do you show 1 key card + void, etc ?
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Posted 2012-February-24, 13:40

View PostTWO4BRIDGE, on 2012-February-24, 12:00, said:

Cyber.... You sure have a lot of bids to show 2 key cards + void, etc.

So, how do you show 1 key card + void, etc ?

We don't, but in many cases we already showed the void earlier. We play things like specifically void splinters as responses to 1suit.

I've never liked showing a void and only 1 keycard committing you to 6 as it can be a good way to get to 6 off 2 aces when partner needed 2 aces for a slam, and has the ace opposite your void.

I don't know what 4 is here for opener over 2N, but would be void for us (although it would show a bit more than we have on this hand).
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