Whats the funniest system you have played?
#1
Posted 2011-June-21, 15:59
#2
Posted 2011-June-21, 16:11
This was during the short period of time in the mid 70s when the ACBL had an anything goes policy on bidding systems.
#3
Posted 2011-June-21, 16:12
#4
Posted 2011-June-21, 16:31
-No bid is forcing unless it's jump in new suit then it's game forcing and showing 5+ (this means that 1/1 and 2/1 are not forcing)
-every bid expect 1NT-...-2NT openers is natural; 1/1 shows 5+cards, 2/1 same;
-openings: all 1level openers shows 5+suit and are 12+hcp
-1NT/2C/2D/2H/2S/2NT are all balanced hands with 12-14, 15-17-, 18-19, 20-21, 22-23 and 24+ respectively.
-3/4 level openers = preempts
I think it's "reasonable" by that I mean it's possible to achieve good score on most deals using it and it can have some benefits as auctions like 1S - 3NT or 1D - 2H - 4H - 6H are standard and you often play "fast 3NT" having some 5-3 or 4-4 fit which makes for big variance and some fun.
#5
Posted 2011-June-21, 16:38
#6
Posted 2011-June-21, 16:45
1♦=14-16 bal or natural 9+
1M=9-16, 5+ in suit
1NT=17-19
2♣=various strong hands
2♦= roman
2M= strong , NF
The light openings make it great fun. Phantom Club and mtvesivius' "magic pass" are great fun for the same reason.
Also the "AWM Club" system that I play with gwnn is great fun:
1♣=15+
1♦=natural, 10-14
1♥=5+ clubs or 4=4=1=4, 10-14
1♠=5+spades, 10-14
1NT=12-14
2♣=5 hearts and 4+ minor or 5+ hearts and 4 spades, 10-14
2♥=intermediate
#7
Posted 2011-June-21, 16:59
mtvesuvius, on 2011-June-21, 16:38, said:
One of the Swedish systems played in the BB was based on 3 card Ms.
The most enjoyable system I have played is WOR. Weak Opening Relay
Pass = 13+
1C = 8-12 Hs
1D = 8-12 S
1H = 0-7
1S = 8-12 ms
The oddest system I have played is Noisicerp. (Backwards Precision)
1C = catch all
1D = H
1H = S
1S = 16+
2D = always undiscussed, so could be anything, even B'wood. Also 2D had to vary from bid to bid.
#8
Posted 2011-June-21, 17:04
mtvesuvius, on 2011-June-21, 16:38, said:
We had some discussion about this a long time ago, possibly before you joined the forum:
http://www.bridgebas...d-major-system/
Unfortunately the thread got hijacked by the usual ACBL legality nonsense but there were some good ideas from AWM and Gerben on how to work out the responses to the multi 1♦ opening.
#9
Posted 2011-June-21, 17:14
The 1 level structure was (IIRC, it's at least 15 years since I played this and it's now illegal) :
1♣ - 10-12 bal with a 4 card major, 16-18 or 21+ bal, <17 nat 4 or 5 clubs if max, 13-16 6+ diamonds or 13-16 diamond/major canape
1♦ - 13-15 or 19-20 balanced, <17 nat 4 or 5 diamonds if max, 13-16 6+ clubs, or 13-16 clubs/major canape
1M - possible canape, don't canape both majors
1N - 17+ unbalanced
1♣ was forcing with a 1♦ negative, and we passed 3334/3343 12 counts systemically.
#10
Posted 2011-June-22, 02:38
Strong pass system with two-way openings:
P = 15+
1♣ = 9+ cards in minors or majors or any 3-suited
1♦ = 9+ cards in reds or blacks
1♥ = 0-9(10 bal)
1♠ = 9+ cards in pointed or rounded suits
1NT = 11-14 Bal
2♣ = 5-9 4M, 5+m
2♦ = 5-9, 5M, 4+m
2♥ = Weak in either major (nat vul)
2♠ = Both majors with better ♠ (Nat vul)
2NT = ♣ pre or bad ♦ pre
3♣ = Minors
3♦ = Good pre
Note that first bid that promises the suit is 2♠
1♣ opening could be AKxxxx AQxxxx x - or as well - x AQxxxx AKxxxx and even xx AQxxxxxx AQx -, usually opps will bid their suits and tell what the opener really had
Everything is followed by relays and I can tell you that they are pretty damn effective. I often get full shape at 2NT or even below.
Another one is Two-way transfers, which follows somewhat in the footsteps of magic ♦.
1♣ = 12-16 without 4+♠ or strong bal
1♦ = 4+♥ unbal, 8-11 or 4+♦ or ♠, 17+ unbal
1♥ = 4+♠ unbal, 8-11 or 4+♥ or ♣, 17+ unbal
1♠ = 12-16, 4+♠, unbal
1NT = 11-14
2♣/♦ = 5+, unbal, 8-11
#11
Posted 2011-June-22, 02:55
1♣ = 16+ any
1♦ = 10-15, no 5M (0+♦)
1M = 10-15, 5+M
1NT = 8-10 balanced
2m = weak, 4+m, 4+M
2♥ = weak, 4+♥, 4+♠
2♠ = weak, 5+♠
2NT = weak, 55+m
3X = 0-7 (not good 6/7), 5+X
I think we opened over 80% of the hands, pass was usually 5440, 4441 or 4333. All 1-level openings had full relays, the 2m/♥ openings also had pretty good relays available.
Another system I really enjoyed was MOSCITO. It looks crazy but it isn't. It's still one of my all time favorites but I no longer play it.
#12
Posted 2011-June-22, 03:52
London UK
#13
Posted 2011-June-22, 04:12
3NT = I'll play 3NT.
3S = You'll play 3NT.
Double = penalty.
Other bids are not allowed, except when they double our 3S or 3NT. If you play against this system you are sure to get some very tough defensive guesses.
- hrothgar
#14
Posted 2011-June-22, 04:33
I played for a couple of years with a lady who was a family friend. She was known for being extremely timid. So, to counter that, I talked her into a light initial action system with 0+ overcalls, RUNT (weak 1NT for takeout), and a Kamikazee 1♦ (either 8-10 balanced with 3+ diamonds or any 3+ diamonds not otherwise covered by an intermediate minors opening or a short semi-canape tendency 1♣ opening).
This had several permutations of hilarity, not the least of which was the reaction of the opponents after our auction 1♦-P-1M, alerted all around as 8-22 or so opposite 3-15 or so and non-forcing ON OPENER! Opener might pass, and yet opur combined range at this point is somewhere between 11-37.
I also enjoyed strange bids that were enabled by forcing her to overcall (even at the two-level) with 0+, assuming proper shape. We would have auctions like 1♦-P-1M-2♦, where my 2♦ call was natural with 3+ (as we ALMOST ALWAYS had a diamond fit in this auction if I had 3+ diamonds, especially if I could read the rest).
We had the auction where I found a 6-2 spade fit, for a 4♠ final contract, knowing that I could pick up the announced 5-0 split (RHO had opened) despite partner simply overcalling a minor, because her pass, vulnerability, and her mind meant that she had to have 5422 pattern with two Aces. (2245 and 2254 were not possible to open with only two Aces.)
I ended up helping her across the LM line using this approach. The lady who would not overcall without 13, would not bid game without 27, and would not bid slam without 34 was suddenly feared by the field as she approached with her 0 HCP takeout 1NTs, 8 HCP opening bids, and 0 HCP 2-level overcalls. If you knew her, this would be a clear candidate for most funny system ever, contextually.
BTW, I also occasionally played a version of this for a couple of years with a young man from DC, Mike Kitces, a regular partner of Kevin Bathurst at that time. So, the system had a following, of sorts. LOL
-P.J. Painter.
#15
Posted 2011-June-22, 05:15
#17
Posted 2011-June-22, 06:10
Never tell the same lie twice. - Elim Garek on the real moral of "The boy who cried wolf"
#18
Posted 2011-June-22, 10:32
#19
Posted 2011-June-22, 10:36
#20
Posted 2011-June-22, 12:36
Funniest at the time: Somehow playing forcing pass was always the most hilarious, though I haven't tried in a while and don't remember specific systems I used.
Most enjoyable: Actually having quality agreements in a mostly natural framework.