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JT8
Ax
KQx
J9832
--- 65432
KQTxxx Jxx
xxxxx xx
xx Axx
AKQ97
xx
Axx
KQT
South is in 4S. KH is led.
South puts hand face up and says...
"I will draw all the trumps, and give
you a club and a heart". The T/D is
called. What would be your ruling?
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Posted 2012-November-20, 03:11
perhaps post it on the laws forum?
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Posted 2012-November-20, 04:00
Perhaps post it in the laws forum, using the diagram editing tool to reduce the amount of effort in understanding your problem to a level which some of us are willing to invest. 
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Posted 2012-November-20, 04:11
ADP5, on 2012-November-20, 03:03, said:
JT8
Ax
KQx
J9832
---..........65432
KQTxxx.........Jxx
xxxxx..........xx
xx.............Axx
AKQ97
xx
Axx
KQT
South is in 4S. KH is led.
South puts hand face up and says...
"I will draw all the trumps, and give
you a club and a heart". The T/D is
called. What would be your ruling?
Ax
KQx
J9832
---..........65432
KQTxxx.........Jxx
xxxxx..........xx
xx.............Axx
AKQ97
xx
Axx
KQT
South is in 4S. KH is led.
South puts hand face up and says...
"I will draw all the trumps, and give
you a club and a heart". The T/D is
called. What would be your ruling?
11 tricks looks like the right ruling. It's irrational for declarer to do anything but shift to clubs once the trump break is exposed, and there is no way to avoid taking 11 tricks once they do that.
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Posted 2012-November-20, 06:22
Welcome to the forums.
When you re-post this in the Laws section (Simple Rulings is appropriate) I also recommend adding the jurisdiction (not that it matters here but it is just generally a good idea) and the quality of the players involved (presumably Expert+ or it would not have been posted in this forum). To use the Hand Editor, click the small ♠ button with think red border above the edit window and follow the directons. It is important to post hands in a legible format if you want to get sensible responses.
When you re-post this in the Laws section (Simple Rulings is appropriate) I also recommend adding the jurisdiction (not that it matters here but it is just generally a good idea) and the quality of the players involved (presumably Expert+ or it would not have been posted in this forum). To use the Hand Editor, click the small ♠ button with think red border above the edit window and follow the directons. It is important to post hands in a legible format if you want to get sensible responses.
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Posted 2012-November-22, 04:57
Establish equity. 11 tricks assuming this declarer WILL drive out CA,
even though he wasn't smart enough to lay down SA 1st.
Now consider a procedural penalty. This claim got a TD call.
Is that enough to establish an *irregularity*?
Nope. But I'd like my beloved game to not have this unthinking
claim ever to occur. 5-0 splits DO occur.
even though he wasn't smart enough to lay down SA 1st.
Now consider a procedural penalty. This claim got a TD call.
Is that enough to establish an *irregularity*?
Nope. But I'd like my beloved game to not have this unthinking
claim ever to occur. 5-0 splits DO occur.
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