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Posted 2012-November-18, 21:19
IMPs.
Partner's cuebid agreed to one or both majors and showed a diamond control.
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Posted 2012-November-18, 21:32
If you keep posting threads like this, the result will be "Less Flannery"
Here I pass, which is forcing.
Here I pass, which is forcing.
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Posted 2012-November-18, 22:12
Granted a pass is forcing, but opposite a LR+ hand, this hand is making 12 or 13 tricks.
A 6♥ call by me now will "guarantee" a void in ♦ and show my 4 losers. Partner will know that slow strength in ♦ is wasted and will be able to advance to 7 with primes in the other 3 suits.
A 6♥ call by me now will "guarantee" a void in ♦ and show my 4 losers. Partner will know that slow strength in ♦ is wasted and will be able to advance to 7 with primes in the other 3 suits.
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Posted 2012-November-18, 23:07
Uhhhh.... the hand is way, way too strong to open with the venerable Flannery 2♦ convention.
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Posted 2012-November-19, 03:51
6c I guess, I'm sure someone will have a good reason for pass and then 6c and maybe its better but obviously drive to slam
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Posted 2012-November-19, 05:39
SteveMoe, on 2012-November-18, 22:12, said:
A 6♥ call by me now will "guarantee" a void in ♦
Never ever...
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Posted 2012-November-19, 05:49
6♦, to show a void in diamonds and ask partner to pick the major 
And yes this hand is too good to open as 11-15.
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And yes this hand is too good to open as 11-15.
Edit - huh, the forum software throws a 500 if you don't fill in the poll correctly? That's poor coding.
ahydra
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Posted 2012-November-19, 05:50
6D, in part to show a first round control and in part to make it a funny sequence.
... and I can prove it with my usual, flawless logic.
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Posted 2012-November-19, 09:15
Pard must have one heck of a hand to cue ♦ -- i.e. make move toward slam. Pard can't have enough values in the majors alone to make such a move. So pard must have ♣ values beside the ♦ control to even contemplate a move toward slam.
Since pard's hand is still unlimited, I think it's right to cooperate and show your outside control, so I'll bid 6 ♣.
With the right cards, that may help pard bid the grand if it's there.
As to whether a hand is too strong for Flannery or not, one must decide if the hand is strong enough to bid 2 ♠ after a forcing 1 NT response to a 1 ♥ opening. If so, then bid 1 ♥. If not, use Flannery.
This hand is on the cusp of that decision. It has 15 HCP, 18+ value, 4 losers, etc. I think I'd still Flannery it, but wouldn't have a problem with those that would open 1 ♥ and rebid 2 ♠.
Since pard's hand is still unlimited, I think it's right to cooperate and show your outside control, so I'll bid 6 ♣.
With the right cards, that may help pard bid the grand if it's there.
As to whether a hand is too strong for Flannery or not, one must decide if the hand is strong enough to bid 2 ♠ after a forcing 1 NT response to a 1 ♥ opening. If so, then bid 1 ♥. If not, use Flannery.
This hand is on the cusp of that decision. It has 15 HCP, 18+ value, 4 losers, etc. I think I'd still Flannery it, but wouldn't have a problem with those that would open 1 ♥ and rebid 2 ♠.
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Posted 2012-November-19, 12:26
rmnka447, on 2012-November-19, 09:15, said:
As to whether a hand is too strong for Flannery or not, one must decide if the hand is strong enough to bid 2 ♠ after a forcing 1 NT response to a 1 ♥ opening. If so, then bid 1 ♥. If not, use Flannery.
You wouldn't be in that position if you weren't playing Flannery, since partner would have responded 1♠ if he had a four-card suit. Flannery seems to give very little bang for the buck.
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Posted 2012-November-20, 07:29
#1 yes
#2 6D - just for the beauty of it, and in the end, this may even be the best bid.
#2 6D - just for the beauty of it, and in the end, this may even be the best bid.
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Posted 2012-November-20, 19:01
Codo, on 2012-November-19, 05:39, said:
Never ever...
Yesssss.....should have said 6♦ Glad Ahydra et al. got it right...
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Posted 2012-November-21, 11:25
I would bid 6♦ now.
I would bid 6 ♣ with stiff ♦ and Axx clubs or so.
I would bid 6 ♣ with stiff ♦ and Axx clubs or so.
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