How to bid this hand? # 3
#2
Posted 2013-February-05, 10:21
#4
Posted 2013-February-06, 13:29
2N-3N (2N = 12-14 or 18-19 balanced, usually 5332, 3N = to play)
4N-6N (4N = 18-19, 6N = to play)
If north chooses to open this 1N, we'll peter out in 3N on Tyler's auction, which is ok.
"...we live off being battle-scarred veterans who manage to hate our opponents slightly more than we hate each other. -- Hamman, re: Wolff
#6
Posted 2013-February-06, 14:07
TylerE, on 2013-February-06, 13:48, said:
Looks like a lot of chances to me, but I wasn't even making the argument that we should be there. Just saying that I would end up in 6N for better or for worse.
"...we live off being battle-scarred veterans who manage to hate our opponents slightly more than we hate each other. -- Hamman, re: Wolff
#7
Posted 2013-February-07, 06:19
1♠ - 2♣ (game force playing 2 over 1, not necessarily long clubs)
2♦ (waiting bid, so that responder can clarify his hand a little) - 2♥ (useful 4 card suit)
2NT (suggests playing in NT) - 3NT (nothing else to say)
4NT (slam suggestion) - pass
Think of the 4NT as being like a quantitative NT raise, with responder passing on a minimum 13-15 hcp hand, but going 6NT on a 16 count. Or maybe trying 5NT on a 15 count, but here the spade shortage is not going to help opener's hand.
#8
Posted 2013-February-07, 06:26
I would rebid 2NT with north wich shows 15+, then it is a bit messy because south is probably worth no more than 3NT, but north might be worth 4NT.
#9
Posted 2013-February-07, 08:25
Fluffy, on 2013-February-07, 06:26, said:
I would rebid 2NT with north wich shows 15+, then it is a bit messy because south is probably worth no more than 3NT, but north might be worth 4NT.
Agreed.
We would bid:
1♠-2♣(10+)
2N (GF not always bal, 15+)-3♥(4♥, only 4♣)
4N (quant usually 17-bad 19 bal, 3♠ would be spades, 4♠ would ask aces with hearts agreed)-6N (would bid 6♠with 3424 which is still possible)
#12
Posted 2013-February-07, 12:51
barsikb, on 2013-February-05, 09:09, said:
cargobeep, on 2013-February-07, 11:24, said:
There sure are a lot of diamond honors in this deck.
Dianne, I'm holding in my hand a small box of chocolate bunnies... --Agent Dale Cooper
#13
Posted 2013-February-07, 15:37
#15
Posted 2013-February-07, 16:53
manudude03, on 2013-February-07, 16:11, said:
1S-2C
2NT-3NT
4NT-6NT for me.
I don't have a problem with this, but I do feel that I might bid 4♣ on the way over 3N as it could be a good idea to play in clubs, and after this it potentially gets murky, but maybe S just bids 6N.
Try xx, AKxx, Qx, AJ108x opposite the original hand for example where 6♣ is a lot better than 6N.
#16
Posted 2013-February-08, 22:32
wyman, on 2013-February-06, 13:29, said:
2N-3N (2N = 12-14 or 18-19 balanced, usually 5332, 3N = to play)
4N-6N (4N = 18-19, 6N = to play)
How do we give Opener 18-19 when he has only 17 hcp ??
3NT directly over the 2C! ( GF ) would be the 15-17 picture bid .
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#17
Posted 2013-February-09, 02:57
#18
Posted 2013-February-09, 07:48
TWO4BRIDGE, on 2013-February-08, 22:32, said:
3NT directly over the 2C! ( GF ) would be the 15-17 picture bid .
(a) I think it's worth 18 (honors are prime, we have a nice 5 card suit)
(b) I get the added benefit of partner raising spades directly (as opposed to opening this 1N).
"...we live off being battle-scarred veterans who manage to hate our opponents slightly more than we hate each other. -- Hamman, re: Wolff
#19
Posted 2013-February-11, 05:07
Sorry, I need to get back to basics on this.
1♠-2♣
After that presuming we are not using 2/1 but SAYC, what should opener bid?
Isn't 2NT showing less than 15HCP?
What would North bid after partner's 2♣ if his hand was AKJ85,87,KJ2,953 in both SAYC and 2/1?
#20
Posted 2013-February-11, 06:17