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#1 User is offline   Cyberyeti 

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Posted 2013-February-15, 18:24

A couple of mildly challenging boards from our session tonight:

Hand 1: Game all dealer W



Hand 2: Game all dealer E



We got lucky on the first, how do you play the second in 6 on the lead of a) Q, b) J ? I'll reveal our auctions later.
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Posted 2013-February-15, 20:34

1)
2c=2h(deny a or k, unlimited tiny pts)
4h=p

or

2c=2h
3h=4h

2)


1h=2c
2h(6)=3h
etc...should get you there.
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Posted 2013-February-16, 03:34

hand 2: On the Q of spades lead, I win the K, cash the K of hearts. If hearts are 5-0, I come to hand with a club to take the diamond finesse, hope it works. If hearts are 4-1 or better, I come to hand with a club to ruff a spade, then ace and a diamond, ruffing with the 9, pulling trump.

On the J of diamonds lead I'm not as sure at trick 1 whether hooking and paying off to some 7-1 & 6-2 breaks with the K off is right, or giving up on picking up a trick when hearts are 5-0 and the K of diamonds is on. My instinct is to play the ace, cash the K of spades and K of hearts, come to hand with a club, ruff a spade, and trump a diamond with the 9.
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Posted 2013-February-16, 03:43

 mike777, on 2013-February-15, 20:34, said:

1)
2c=2h(deny a or k, unlimited tiny pts)
4h=p

or

2c=2h
3h=4h

2)


1h=2c
2h(6)=3h
etc...should get you there.

Hand 1: So partner actually had 5 clubs to the Q and 6 was cold.

Hand 2: Dealer E, so unless you regularly pass 14 counts ...

To CSGibson, 7-2 fits don't often get 5-0 breaks :)
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Posted 2013-February-16, 04:06

(hand slaps forehead) This is why my computer should stop me from posting crap after 1AM.
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Posted 2013-February-16, 08:09

2) east dealer I start with 1nt so:


1nt=4d
4h=4s(rkc in h)
5d=5s(grand try)
5nt(ks)=6h(deny KC and KD)
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Posted 2013-February-16, 11:06

(1) 2 strong - 2 negative - 3 - 3 - 3NT. I think east may as well show his good four-card spade suit at the second round and this gets us to a 3NT contract which is pretty cold. Obviously 4 is excellent also.

(2) 1 - 1 - 2 - 2 checkback - 3 - 3 - 4 - keycard - two without - king ask - no minor king - 6

On the play of board 2, I am going to try and ruff a spade in dummy (not taking any diamond finesse). On the spade lead I will win the king, diamond ace and ruff, ruff a spade, heart king. If hearts break I am safe to ruff a diamond high; if LHO started with four hearts I will try club to ace since diamonds 6-2 seems more likely than clubs 5-0. On a diamond lead I will play similarly. This line seems safe unless: (1) diamonds are 7-1 with the one in north (2) spades are 8-1 with the one in south (3) hearts are 4-0 with north holding four, and also clubs are 5-0 with north being void.
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Posted 2013-February-16, 12:09

It seems the 2 negative has an issue here on hand 1 as it makes it much more difficult to find a club or heart slam opposite say xxxx, xx, xx, Qxxxx or even xxxx, Jx, xxx, Qxxx where the club slam is good.

Our auction had a different problem:

2-2(old fashioned 0-7)-2(kokish)-2(semi forced)-3(/)-4

now it wasn't clear to me whether this was worse than 3 or just different in that he was sure he wanted to play in hearts while 3 wanted to find out if I was 5-5 and in that case play in clubs. I visualised xxxx, xxxx, Kxx, xx where the slam just requires a 2-1 trump break, and we wound up in 5. I got a trump lead, played a spade back and a second trump was returned, I discarded my diamond on the Q drew trumps and played AKx not finding them 3-3 but getting second prize when Q10 dropped doubleton and my 6 made the contract.

On the second, this was easy as we play SJS:

1-2(GF, rock crusher with or HHxxx/Hxxx opening hand +)
3(5+, better than small stiff )-3(single suited type, suit setting)
3(A/K/1/0)-4(A/K)
4(A/K/1/0)-4(KC)
5(2 w/o Q)-5N(anything else)
6(no)

I got Q lead, played a club to the A ruffed by N (who had 10xx), fortunately K was onside and there was no further problem.
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Posted 2013-February-16, 14:29

1) yes finding minor suit slams are difficult, with your examples very difficult in 2/1.
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Posted 2013-February-16, 14:44

Hand 1

2 - 2 (waiting)
2 - 2 (2nd neg.)
3 - 3
4

Hand 2

- - 1
1 - 2
2 - 2 NT
3 - 4
4 NT - 5
6
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Posted 2013-February-18, 08:17

Hand 1
1 = 15+ nat/bal or 18+ any
... - 1 = most non-GF
1 = unbal GF or 18+ 3-suited
... - 2 = double negative, ~0-2 (downgrade)
2 = nat, GF
... - 2 = nat
2NT = nat
... - 3 = nat
4

Hand 2
2 = 10-14, 6+ clubs or 54M
... - 2 = 4+ hearts
2 = 0-2 hearts
... - 4 = 6+ good hearts, 0-1 diamonds, SI
5 = good for heart slam, 2 key cards, no Q
... - 5 = K ask
5NT = K
... - 6 = K ask
6 = no minor king
(-: Zel :-)
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Posted 2013-February-18, 10:04

1)

2C (many strong options, one of which is hearts) - 2H (negative)
4H - pass

2)
1C - 1H
2C - 2D (fake a suit to make partner bid again)
3D - 3H (this should be GF, right??)
4H - 4NT
5H (2 no Q) - 5NT (ask kings)
6H (no kings, or just the SK) - pass

I wonder about overtaking the SK with the Ace to ruff two spades easily. I can now ruff a diamond, draw trumps and claim (and hope that if trumps either don't break 4-0 or there is a singleton CK). You look to be an entry short to try setting up clubs (unless when you play CA, C to Q, the king pops up on your left).

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