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You have kqjx kqj xxx xxx. Partner open 1 spade.If you think to play 4 spade, show me an hand of partner with a 5 3 3 2 shape and 12 13 points where you are able to make 4 spade. As title says , i dont know the answer. For me there isn t.
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quiz, i dont know the answer if there is
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Posted 2013-August-09, 06:32
Axxxx xxx AKQ xx, losing two clubs and a heart. The spade ace could be anywhere.
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Posted 2013-August-09, 06:38
billw55, on 2013-August-09, 06:32, said:
Axxxx xxx AKQ xx, losing two clubs and a heart. The spade ace could be anywhere.
and if h are 6-1 H ruff h and so...
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Posted 2013-August-09, 06:41
T9xxx
xxx
AQ
KQx
That is 11 points and you can make it if both fineses work or on a minor suit lead (except for the underlead of ♣A). Or possibly on an endplay. It is not a good game, though.
T9xxx
xxx
AK
KQJ
That is 13 points and you make it as long as they don't get a ruff.
But KQJx KQJ xxx xxx is 9 modified LTC to some. I don't think many would downgrade it to a simple raise, though. But a limit raise is reasonable. I wouldn't force to game.
xxx
AQ
KQx
That is 11 points and you can make it if both fineses work or on a minor suit lead (except for the underlead of ♣A). Or possibly on an endplay. It is not a good game, though.
T9xxx
xxx
AK
KQJ
That is 13 points and you make it as long as they don't get a ruff.
But KQJx KQJ xxx xxx is 9 modified LTC to some. I don't think many would downgrade it to a simple raise, though. But a limit raise is reasonable. I wouldn't force to game.
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Posted 2013-August-09, 06:42
patroclo, on 2013-August-09, 06:38, said:
and if h are 6-1 H ruff h and so...
Are you serious? If you are going to think that way, I can set 4♠ on an opening crossruff when you have all 40 points.
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Posted 2013-August-09, 07:08
There are no guarantees in this game. If you have a hand where you should bid game, bid it, play it, and go on to the next board. Agonizing over "I bid game but it didn't make" is counter-productive.
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Posted 2013-August-09, 07:39
blackshoe, on 2013-August-09, 07:08, said:
There are no guarantees in this game. If you have a hand where you should bid game, bid it, play it, and go on to the next board. Agonizing over "I bid game but it didn't make" is counter-productive.
A huge hurdle for me as a player was when I realized that... The job of the players during bidding is to accurately and systematically describe their hand to their partner, while the pair arrives at the 'correct' final contract.
Whether the contract makes or not is a separate issue. As another poster pointed out, you can have "great" contracts that go down on a flukey distribution. You bid your hand, land in a reasonable/right spot, and then let the cards fall where they may. There's always room for judgment based on information you have, but sometimes the 'right' action goes wrong. That's part of the intrigue of the game.
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Posted 2013-August-09, 07:45
patroclo, on 2013-August-09, 06:38, said:
and if h are 6-1 H ruff h and so...
No, the Ace is singleton and there's no way back to get a ruff, so...
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Posted 2013-August-09, 08:56
♠T9xxx
♥xxx
♦AKQ
♣Ax
also works
♥xxx
♦AKQ
♣Ax
also works
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Posted 2013-August-09, 09:33
patroclo, on 2013-August-09, 06:19, said:
You have kqjx kqj xxx xxx. Partner open 1 spade.If you think to play 4 spade, show me an hand of partner with a 5 3 3 2 shape and 12 13 points where you are able to make 4 spade. As title says , i dont know the answer. For me there isn t.
Axx, A10xxx xx, Axx has good play
and makes 11 on 3 rounds of diamonds.
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