[fromageGB]

I'm going for 1♠. Let partner bid 1NT if he wants to. I would have thought that having this as 4xx5 rather than 4xxx would be a partnership agreement rather than the expectation. Mind you, I'm all in favour of finding 4-4 major fits rather than miss them and play in 1NT. I'd rather look for them, then play in 1NT if not there.

The problem with checkback is that partner is probably more likely than not to be less than invitational.

[mike777]

good points by both sides.

all this talk reminds me that:

1c=1h
1s=2s is less than:

1c=1h
1s=2c!
2d!=2s



I assume the by passé 1s bidders hve their own system fixes for this.

[ggwhiz]

 mike777, on 2013-September-03, 14:42, said:

I assume the by passé 1s bidders hve their own system fixes for this.

You are correct in that we have as much system after a 1nt rebid as a 1nt opener and it's necessary to win hands with frequency and we certainly don't win em all.

[aguahombre]

 mike777, on 2013-September-03, 14:42, said:

good points by both sides.

all this talk reminds me that:

1c=1h
1s=2s is less than:

1c=1h
1s=2c!
2d!=2s

I assume the by passé 1s bidders hve their own system fixes for this.

What's the fix for a responder who wanted to lay down dummy in 2C?

[mike777]

 aguahombre, on 2013-September-03, 18:04, said:

What's the fix for a responder who wanted to lay down dummy in 2C?

3c or the opp will never let you play 2c but you knew that


Esp here on the forums where many overcall on almost any 5-6 card suit or make a takeout double with short c and any kind of semidecent hand

[aguahombre]

 mike777, on 2013-September-03, 18:23, said:

3c or the opp will never let you play 2c but you knew that

Esp here on the forums where many overcall on almost any 5-6 card suit or make a takeout double with short c and any kind of semidecent hand

You are assuming Responder has a hand where he doesn't want the opponents to come in. With, say XX KJXX XXXX QXX, I wouldn't want to jump to 3C even after Opener has shown something like 4-2-2-5 ---she wouldn't appreciate the humor. I have already gained if Opener guaranteed unbalanced pattern by not perpetrating a 1NT rebid, and don't feel like blowing it with a jump.