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#1 User is offline   Fluffy 

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Posted 2014-November-22, 10:34



You can play the hand here: http://bridgegod.com...id=416&setid=19

This shouldn't be interesting by now, yet 70% users on my webpage have made the wrong bid, I am a bit puzzled.
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Posted 2014-November-22, 14:24

damn, missed it 1st time lol
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Posted 2014-November-22, 16:52

4N, really?
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Posted 2014-November-22, 19:54

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This shouldn't be interesting by now, yet 70% users on my webpage have made the wrong bid, I am a bit puzzled.

Well, I'm not surprised it's that many considering you tell us that we've already bid 4NT :o
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Posted 2014-November-22, 21:28

Come on. 4NT is a ridiculous bid.
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Posted 2014-November-23, 01:18

I agree that 4NT is awful - after seeing both hands a LSGT in ♦ is best, but at the table I might choose a SSGT in ♥.

If you choose 4NT, I bet that (1.) A few people won't realize that 5♥ DENIES the Q♠ and (2.) That the J♠ give the false impression that we don't need the Q♠
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Posted 2014-November-23, 02:33

wtp with 4NT? are you going to stick to 4♠ if pard is disinterested?
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Posted 2014-November-23, 05:17

I jus tput 4NT for simplicity, but it doesn't matter, whatever trial you make partner is gonna accept. And then you can bid 4NT, and then 70% of the users go to slam anyway.
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Posted 2014-November-23, 06:45

View PostFluffy, on 2014-November-23, 05:17, said:

I jus tput 4NT for simplicity, but it doesn't matter, whatever trial you make partner is gonna accept. And then you can bid 4NT, and then 70% of the users go to slam anyway.


I did that because I wanted to get on with the play, not because I thought it was right.
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Posted 2014-November-23, 08:26

My partner also bid 6♠ because he though it was a problem about an overtrick or soemthing, I suppose I have to get used of players not taking my problems as seriously as I'd wish.
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Posted 2014-November-23, 10:55

don't blame me.. i bid 5♠ :)
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Posted 2014-November-23, 14:00

I also bid 5 ♠.

You have to be missing an A and the trump Q. You don't know much about partner's hand except it's at least 5-4. If the opponent's find their A on the opening lead, then the slam requires no trump losers. That will probably require the ♠ finesse to work. Even if they don't find the A, you'll still need to get rid of the losers in the aceless suit or else you're back to needing no trump losers. You can't ever know if partner's hand has the right cards to eliminate those losers. If you don't know, don't go!!

The only places you might even consider bidding slam is if you're way behind in an IMP match and need to create swings, or, possibly to take a wild shot at a top in MP.
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Posted 2014-November-23, 17:47

View Postwhereagles, on 2014-November-23, 10:55, said:

don't blame me.. i bid 5♠ :)


I ended up in 5♠ also, but after a different auction.
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