[MrAce]

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Lead deuce ♠

What is your favourite line?

[WesleyC]

I'm probably missing something obvious, because this hand seems pretty simple...

1. Spade Ruff
2. Club to the Ace
3. Spade Ruff
4. Heart to the King.

Even if clubs are 4-0, we might be able to discard both diamonds if hearts are 3/3.

[MrAce]

WesleyC, on 2015-June-15, 20:27, said:

I'm probably missing something obvious, because this hand seems pretty simple...

1. Spade Ruff
2. Club to the Ace
3. Spade Ruff
4. Heart to the King.

Even if clubs are 4-0, we might be able to discard both diamonds if hearts are 3/3.

If clubs behaved this would not be a problem. So you had the advantage of guessing it due to being posted in forums but still put your money on 3-3 ♥. When you ruffed the first ♠ and played a ♣ to hand , LHO discards a ♠. You ruffed 2nd spade and played a ♥ to K. I hope hearts are 3-3 for you, if this is your favourite line.

Cmon, you can do better than this. It is actually pretty easy to increase your chances when it is 4-0 onside, but a world class player played exact same line you did.

[rhm]

1. Spade ruff
2. Club to ace.

If West shows out, switch to hearts.
If hearts are 3-3 nothing lost. You are home. Just continue hearts.
If hearts are are 4-2 you will have to overruff East, but you now know to take the diamond finesse after the second spade ruff.
If East fails to ruff the third heart you ruff the fourth heart and establish the fifth for a second diamond discard.
Surprised that a world class player misplayed such a simple hand.

Rainer Herrmann

[nige1]

If LHO turns up with 4 ♣s, then You can revert to WesleyC's line

[benlessard]

I think the answer MrAce expect is the unblock the of the T of clubs in case clubs are 0-4 and the Jh is doubleton

[MrAce]

benlessard, on 2015-June-16, 13:14, said:

I think the answer MrAce expect is the unblock the of the T of clubs in case clubs are 0-4 and the Jh is doubleton

You are getting close, but the trick imo is when E has stiff ♥J. Not doubleton.


I personally find the line below interesting

T1- Take spade in hand with Ace
T2- Cash ♣ A and see 0-4, ( if 4-0 you know what to do)
T3- Cash ♥K

and if J drops from E, ruff a spade with T, finesse clubs and make 6♣+1ruff+5♥ +1♠ tricks for 13 tricks.
and if J did not drop play hearts and you know what to do.

Problem with this line is when you cash ♣ A and everyone follows. It gets a little complicated at that point. Then we can not afford to cash ♥ K i guess. We will need to cash 2nd club and see if 2-2. If not we will ruff a spade and ♥ K to hand, clear trumps and hope for 3-3 hearts. If not 3-3 we can try to guess diamonds. Is this better than Rainer's line? I do not think so. Because this line forces us to guess diamonds when trumps are 3-1

Note: Edited couple of nonsense.

[benlessard]

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You are getting close, but the trick imo is when E has stiff ♥J

im ok too,

ruff ♠, ♣T to ♣A seeing the bad break, ♥K overtake ♣finesse and its over if east got Jx or J. If the ♥J doesnt fall ill pitch a spades and rely on D finesse.

EDIT ....Ok i made a mistake I blow a trick when I overtake in H.

good problem.

[benlessard]

♠A,♣A seing bad break. Ruff S C finesse and play on the H.


This will work when east got J,Jx or H are 3-3. If H dont work you have the D guess.

Again this doesnt work if clubs break and all i had to do is to ruff 2S..

[MrAce]

[WesleyC]

MrAce, on 2015-June-16, 17:27, said:

T1- Take spade in hand with Ace
T2- Cash ♣ A and see 0-4, ( if 4-0 you know what to do)
T3- Cash ♥K

Problem with this line is when you cash ♣ A and everyone follows. It gets a little complicated at that point. Then we can not afford to cash ♥ K i guess. We will need to cash 2nd club and see if 2-2. If not we will ruff a spade and ♥ K to hand, clear trumps and hope for 3-3 hearts. If not 3-3 we can try to guess diamonds. Is this better than Rainer's line? I do not think so. Because this line forces us to guess diamonds when trumps are 3-1

On this kind of deal, it's almost impossible for a line that gives you a chance to go down on 3/1 trumps to be correct. For example, LHO holding ♣Jxx and short hearts is significantly more likely than East holding ♣Jxxx. Once you've convinced yourself of this general principle, you can save a lot of thinking time by discounting those lines immediately.

[MrAce]

WesleyC, on 2015-June-17, 21:34, said:

On this kind of deal, it's almost impossible for a line that gives you a chance to go down on 3/1 trumps to be correct. For example, LHO holding ♣Jxx and short hearts is significantly more likely than East holding ♣Jxxx. Once you've convinced yourself of this general principle, you can save a lot of thinking time by discounting those lines immediately.

Obviously you have written this comment without reading fully what I have written already. Otherwise you would not repeat what I already said.