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Jec's order : lorenzo ok to ak for undo Do you think this adjustment is fair ?

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Posted 2015-September-02, 15:14

Beijing Time about 4:00 , 2015-09-03 Cayne VS EGEPT Ladies #13



At first, East knew North misclick , and paused for a few seconds , then Pass , West lead !s7. Here is the later conversation:

llorenzo: sorry
JEC: lorenzo ok to ak for undo
reisig: ask undo
kiko: you didnt ask
llorenzo: yes my undo not avalaible

Then the playing end, result was 1!DS+5, the conversation was going on .....

susina 8: i am here pl tell me

susina 8: i adjusted board 13
kiko: why not 6d

guitonnell: pls ask any time


kiko: nobody asked for undo


Psyck: It was likely passed out before undo could be asked


llorenzo: Iasked because my undo wasnt avalaible


kiko: we didnt see it


After researching and analysis, some information as following :

1. it's a private game
2. Jec ask pd to undo, but dummy's undo button unavailable
3. before 1!DS+5 made , nobody did undo
4. we don't know whether Jec knew he could undo and rebid 1!D, but opps already saw North's hand
5. susina 8 was called and coming ...
6. then adjust to 3NN=, same as other table
7. kiko was not satisfied , and it seemed nobody asked her agreement before adjust
8. Throughout the process, EW had no any fault

what do you want to say with roles as follow ?

1. the boss of EGYPT Ladies
2. the TD certified by BBO
3. Arbitration, such as BBO

Surely we know, susina just cancelled this board, and no any thinking else for me , just discuss the online rules :)
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Posted 2015-September-02, 15:28

View Postc9, on 2015-September-02, 15:14, said:

what do you want to say with roles as follow ?

1. the boss of EGYPT Ladies

Agreed to play in JEC's game according to JEC's rules.

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2. the TD certified by BBO

There is no such thing.

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3. Arbitration, such as BBO

There is no such thing.
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Posted 2015-September-03, 00:20

Undo is pretty much mandatory in JEC matches.

Clearly this was a misclick, nobody passes an unlimited 1 response with a solid 1 opener, let alone a world class player. 2nd, this is just a practice match, even if there is serious bridge being played. Do you want to win IMPs on this type of computer mistake?
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Posted 2015-September-03, 09:40

When you sit down for a JEC match, susina explains the rules, and #1 is "always accept undo requests".

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