[johnu]

Some may already play Kickback RKC, but there is also a Kickback Grand Slam (Non) Force.

If spades are trump, after 5NT,

6♣ - 1 step Trump ace or king
6♦ - 2 steps Trump queen or 2+ cards more than promised, or plus 3 or more
6♥ - 3 steps No honor but 1 card more than promised
6♠ - 4 steps No honor, expected length

Higher - 5+ steps 2 of top 3 or ace and 3 cards more than expected.

Additional asking bids after 1 and 2 step responses. The goal is to get to 7 with a 10 card fit missing the queen, or with a 12 card fit missing the king.

[Vampyr]

Caitlynne, on 2016-June-15, 11:30, said:

One more comment: The raise to 4H was the bid of someone who does not understand the Principle of Fast Arrival. Fast Arrival is appropriate only when partner has limited his/her values. You never jump to a sign-off in game if partner is unlimited because you don't want to preempt partner if partner has slammish values where the 5 level MIGHT not be safe.

How do you propose to explain this to the robot?

[msjennifer]

One is worried "if partner bids 5D over 4 NT then what?" In other words RKC or BW is not going to solve anything.One is only interested to find out if P has The HA and then if he has,to bid GS hoping hearts will behave or P will have HJ also.My suggestion is to use a bid of 5 NT over 4H asking for trump honors and as played by many the 1Step shows no top honor,2Step shows 1 top honor.So P will bid 6D to show one top honor and you then bid the Grand Slam in Heart.I know that this method is not useful if 2 Top honors are missing and the agreed suit is Clubs.One other way is to bid 4D over P bid of 1H to ask for "specific "Ace/Aces.( Since hearts are agreed 4 H shows no Ace and Heart Ace will be shown with a bid of 4 NT). I do not know much about them but may be the old fashioned Culbertson asking bids will help.

[smerriman]

ggwhiz, on 2016-June-15, 07:14, said:

Bidding problems with robots..... Really?

Vampyr, on 2016-June-16, 12:36, said:

How do you propose to explain this to the robot?

I expect nothing beats a dedicated partner, but I've learnt far more playing with Gib than random pickup partners online, even if they're not perfect. Especially learning what they get wrong and what humans would do instead, like all of the ideas in this topic Thanks all.

[mike777]

Jinksy, on 2016-June-16, 05:30, said:

Object it is not a shame to test theory....shame on you for suggesting that


If only we could be as wise as you are in theory

[jogs]

Perhaps somewhere between the 3rd and 5th bid of the auction your bids should be based on controls rather than HCP. Any jump to game means your hand is weak in controls. Therefore not jumping to game means you still have 'extras'.

[Jinksy]

mike777, on 2016-June-17, 01:04, said:

Object it is not a shame to test theory....shame on you for suggesting that

Hint: that is not an anti-science meme.