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Pulling a Redouble?

#1 User is offline   slar 

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  Posted 2016-October-27, 21:53

In a daily tournament, I was 3rd hand and the bidding went 3(4)4(X);p(p). I had a decent hand and thought we would make it so I decided to redouble. GIB inexplicably pulled the redouble to 5. The explanation is that the bid shows a first round control (it happened to be a void). This is a terrible bid. There is only one scenario where playing a redoubled contract is worse than bidding on - 7 vs. 4XX nonvulnerable. As if +1480 vs. +1510 makes much difference in any form of scoring! Of course the hand only makes 4 so this was about an 18 IMP swing. Ouch.

GIB should never pull a redouble that shows values.
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Posted 2016-October-28, 07:10

I've looked at all of the pinned posts and can't work out how to create a simple diagram so here is the link to the hand as played.

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Posted 2016-October-28, 11:18

Obviously not something the most novice human would ever do. Part of the problem is defining the XX by point count. Of course it means I think we will make! But it is still hard to imagine why GIB does anything but pass.
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Posted 2016-October-30, 08:34

View Postiandayre, on 2016-October-28, 11:18, said:

Obviously not something the most novice human would ever do. Part of the problem is defining the XX by point count. Of course it means I think we will make! But it is still hard to imagine why GIB does anything but pass.


Good reply.
I think all the main problems are defining the xx by TPs count. This meant it was xx TP count explanation caused the disaster.
Now I would take this issue to enlarge its ranges.
Hand-1 Here is Slar's hand.

Hand-2 Here is a normal Gibs sequences.

Hand-3 Here is my hand to enlarge this issue.

Obviously, if without worse x/xx TP count explanations, there are not such rediculous stories.





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Posted 2016-October-30, 08:36

Of course, this may be a weak area for Gib.
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