[virgosrock]

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cases where GIBBO prefers NT in my experience:
1. Good d stopper maybe KTx, AQx, QJxx, weak trumps, lower HCP to name a few
2. I know I opened light but is not what I am discussing
3. Yes, 3H shows 4 and I should have again in retrospect. Did not want to give away the distribution.

BUT Qx ? Really?

vrock

[virgosrock]

This somehow escaped everyone's attention. Trying to re-post or get to top of list.

vrock

[smerriman]

Basic GIB passes, doesn't bid 3NT. Advanced GIB was gambling that 3NT would work out better in the long run. Nothing wrong with that.

[helene_t]

smerriman, on 2017-November-20, 18:07, said:

Basic GIB passes, doesn't bid 3NT. Advanced GIB was gambling that 3NT would work out better in the long run. Nothing wrong with that.

hmmm .... I wonder under what assumption it works better in the long run. Of course, if it works better in the long run under the assumption that W will always pass, then fair enough. But if W is supposed to correct to 4♠ with the actual hand, then I don't think it is good to bid 3NT.

[virgosrock]

helene_t, on 2017-November-20, 18:23, said:

hmmm .... I wonder under what assumption it works better in the long run. Of course, if it works better in the long run under the assumption that W will always pass, then fair enough. But if W is supposed to correct to 4♠ with the actual hand, then I don't think it is good to bid 3NT.

Well Helene. I gave the matter some thought. There is a fuzzy weird warped logic for trying 3 NT. Partner is limited. 2 of 12 hcp are the dQ. So if one has to bid game after the bidding it seems like a shot at 3NT is not bad. pd may have jxx, Txxx, Ax(x) etc. Or the d bidder may duck to keep communication. So GIBBO takes a chance.

vrock

[jdonn]

Sorry you might disagree, but I don't think this is 'bad' enough to bother fixing. I wouldn't bid 3NT but it could easily be right - just give partner a minimum with diamond help and there are 4 tricks to lose.

[virgosrock]

jdonn, on 2017-November-22, 10:48, said:

Sorry you might disagree, but I don't think this is 'bad' enough to bother fixing. I wouldn't bid 3NT but it could easily be right - just give partner a minimum with diamond help and there are 4 tricks to lose.

agreed jdonn. i was trying to say GIBBO bid is ok. Sorry if I didn't make it clear. bid may not be "safe" but it is ok. no fix necessary.

vrock

[jdonn]

Ok thanks, appreciate the comment.