[virgosrock]

Money Bridge, vul vs. not
Your hand
S KTx
H K
D KQJxx
C KTxx

Goes pass-pass to you. Hopefully you trot out 1D. So
p-p-1D-x-2D-2H

Your bid?

vrock

[The_Badger]

It's got 14 cards at the moment, virgos, 4613 shape Just delete one and we'll make an assessment

[virgosrock]

The_Badger, on 2017-November-19, 12:11, said:

It's got 14 cards at the moment, virgos, 4613 shape Just delete one and we'll make an assessment

my apologies. have edited post. KQJxx in diamonds. there was an extra x.

[manudude03]

I just bid 3D.

[nige1]

virgosrock, on 2017-November-19, 10:36, said:

Money Bridge, vul vs. not Your hand ♠ K T x ♥ K ♦ K Q J x x ♣ K T x x
Goes pass-pass to you. Hopefully you trot out 1♦. So
P (P) 1♦ (X) 2♦ (2♥) Your bid?

I rank

• 3♣ = NAT. Shows you have real ♦s and a little bit extra.
• 3♦ = NAT. Down the middle.
• Pass = NAT. Your ♥K is more useful in defence.
• 3♥ = ASK for ♥ stop. Gross overbid.
• 2N = NAT. Gross overbid without a real ♥ stop.
• Double = T/O? But IMO, it should be penalty.

[wank]

nige1, on 2017-November-19, 16:14, said:

I rank

• 3♣ = NAT. Shows you have real ♦s and a little bit extra.
• 3♦ = NAT. Down the middle.
• Pass = NAT. Your ♥K is more useful in defence.
• 3♥ = ASK for ♥ stop. Gross overbid.
• 2N = NAT. Gross overbid without a real ♥ stop.
• Double = T/O? But IMO, it should be penalty.

which extra bit do you think you have?

[virgosrock]

wank, on 2017-November-19, 17:29, said:

which extra bit do you think you have?

Love the responses thus far

Suppose you (actually me) bid 3C. lefty GIBBO bids 4H and as you would expect your pard GIBBO - yes you guessed it - doubles. righty Human passes. Your bid?

vrock

[The_Badger]

virgosrock, on 2017-November-19, 17:48, said:

Love the responses thus far
Suppose you (actually me) bid 3C. lefty GIBBO bids 4H and as you would expect your pard GIBBO - yes you guessed it - doubles. righty Human passes. Your bid?
vrock

Your hand (under the doubler, let's not forget that) is better than minimum but still minimum with partner raising ♦s over the X, and my personal view is your only bid on the 2nd round, agreeing with other commentators, should have been 3♦ only.

You've dug yourself a right hole bidding 3♣, in my opinion, and vulnerable vs. not vulnerable do you want to be at the 5 level? With GIBBO as the doubler and bidder of 4♥, you might get away with 5♦ undoubled but I seriously doubt it. I'll pass now and prepare to re-mortgage.

[steve2005]

virgosrock, on 2017-November-19, 17:48, said:

Suppose you (actually me) bid 3C. lefty GIBBO bids 4H and as you would expect your pard GIBBO - yes you guessed it - doubles. righty Human passes. Your bid?

3♣ should either be extra values as wank said (which you don't have) so would welcome double.
Or big distribution and can now bid 5♣.

Knowing Gib's method 3♣ probably shows 11-21 and was of virtually no help for future bidding except for possible club fit.

[virgosrock]

Thanks all for your responses. 100% my fault for bidding 3C. The moment I bid it and LHO GIBBO jumped to 4H I knew he had AQ of clubs and had started to kick myself. And more kicking after MyGIBBO doubled. Why in tarnation GIBBO assumes if pd has 16-21 "points" it is always 21 "points" is beyond me. Still 200% my fault. Here is the hand in all its glory, Oh! the bad thought did cross my mind when GIBBO bid 2D that it could be sitting with 6 C or something. Still wrong!!!!!

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Kudos to those who recommended pass. Secondary kudos to those who bid 3D

vrock