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Standards have changed? how good does a 2 level overcall need to be nowadays?

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Posted 2019-April-03, 21:48

Pretty basic, I think.

(1D) Pass (1H) X
(2H) 3C(1) All pass?

(1) constructive 8plus-11 or so

Yes, you want to strain to overcall 2C over 1D. But come on. 10 HCP, a TERRIBLE suit, 5332 distribution, three Jacks -- does it get any worse? Anyone who overcalls this hand deserves to hear the auction go Pass-Pass-X swish and go for a phone number.

OTOH, the South hand has an easy X over 1H. Yeah, you'd rather your H honors were in clubs, but you're only at the one-level, and it's not like you have a bunch of stray Qs and Js in the red suits.

North should then bid 3C over 2H, constructive. 2NT would show a hand that merely wanted to compete -- maybe 5 to a normal 8. North's hand isn't great with the three Js, but it's good enough to make the stronger 3C bid. That will end the auction unless the opponents venture 3H, which I would crack in a second with the South hand.

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Posted 2019-April-03, 21:48

Pretty basic, I think.

(1D) Pass (1H) X
(2H) 3C(1) All pass?

(1) constructive 8plus-11 or so

Yes, you want to strain to overcall 2C over 1D. But come on. 10 HCP, a TERRIBLE suit, 5332 distribution, three Jacks -- does it get any worse? Anyone who overcalls this hand deserves to hear the auction go Pass-Pass-X swish and go for a phone number.

OTOH, the South hand has an easy X over 1H. Yeah, you'd rather your H honors were in clubs, but you're only at the one-level, and it's not like you have a bunch of stray Qs and Js in the red suits.

North should then bid 3C over 2H, constructive. 2NT would show a hand that merely wanted to compete -- maybe 5 to a normal 8. North's hand isn't great with the three Js, but it's good enough to make the stronger 3C bid. That will end the auction unless the opponents venture 3H, which I would crack in a second with the South hand.

Cheers,
Mike
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Posted 2019-April-03, 21:48

Pretty basic, I think.

(1D) Pass (1H) X
(2H) 3C(1) All pass?

(1) constructive 8plus-11 or so

Yes, you want to strain to overcall 2C over 1D. But come on. 10 HCP, a TERRIBLE suit, 5332 distribution, three Jacks -- does it get any worse? Anyone who overcalls this hand deserves to hear the auction go Pass-Pass-X swish and go for a phone number.

OTOH, the South hand has an easy X over 1H. Yeah, you'd rather your H honors were in clubs, but you're only at the one-level, and it's not like you have a bunch of stray Qs and Js in the red suits.

North should then bid 3C over 2H, constructive. 2NT would show a hand that merely wanted to compete -- maybe 5 to a normal 8. North's hand isn't great with the three Js, but it's good enough to make the stronger 3C bid. That will end the auction unless the opponents venture 3H, which I would crack in a second with the South hand.

Cheers,
Mike
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Posted 2019-April-03, 21:48

Pretty basic, I think.

(1D) Pass (1H) X
(2H) 3C(1) All pass?

(1) constructive 8plus-11 or so

Yes, you want to strain to overcall 2C over 1D. But come on. 10 HCP, a TERRIBLE suit, 5332 distribution, three Jacks -- does it get any worse? Anyone who overcalls this hand deserves to hear the auction go Pass-Pass-X swish and go for a phone number.

OTOH, the South hand has an easy X over 1H. Yeah, you'd rather your H honors were in clubs, but you're only at the one-level, and it's not like you have a bunch of stray Qs and Js in the red suits.

North should then bid 3C over 2H, constructive. 2NT would show a hand that merely wanted to compete -- maybe 5 to a normal 8. North's hand isn't great with the three Js, but it's good enough to make the stronger 3C bid. That will end the auction unless the opponents venture 3H, which I would crack in a second with the South hand.

Cheers,
Mike
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Posted 2019-April-03, 21:48

Pretty basic, I think.

(1D) Pass (1H) X
(2H) 3C(1) All pass?

(1) constructive 8plus-11 or so

Yes, you want to strain to overcall 2C over 1D. But come on. 10 HCP, a TERRIBLE suit, 5332 distribution, three Jacks -- does it get any worse? Anyone who overcalls this hand deserves to hear the auction go Pass-Pass-X swish and go for a phone number.

OTOH, the South hand has an easy X over 1H. Yeah, you'd rather your H honors were in clubs, but you're only at the one-level, and it's not like you have a bunch of stray Qs and Js in the red suits.

North should then bid 3C over 2H, constructive. 2NT would show a hand that merely wanted to compete -- maybe 5 to a normal 8. North's hand isn't great with the three Js, but it's good enough to make the stronger 3C bid. That will end the auction unless the opponents venture 3H, which I would crack in a second with the South hand.

Cheers,
Mike
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Posted 2019-April-03, 23:05

Mike, you may want to delete four of your five repeated posts.

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