[sandiem]

I think I am right in saying that I can now put a break in a Swiss Pairs event.
Could someone please confirm this before I make a horrible mess of it?

[mesurina]

 sandiem, on 2020-October-23, 06:51, said:

I think I am right in saying that I can now put a break in a Swiss Pairs event.
Could someone please confirm this before I make a horrible mess of it?

Ran one yesterday 8 rounds with a break after round 4 using command +break4+. It worked fine by adding time to the round before the break. It is supposed to add an hour but it only added about 40 minutes. See My link for more details.

[barmar]

Were they 20-minute rounds? I think the break duration may include the time of the round leading into it (essentially it increases the time of round 4 to 60 minutes).

[Vampyr]

Do BBO Swiss events use the same VP table as the EBU? Is there a way to turn off Danish?

[gordontd]

 Vampyr, on 2020-October-28, 14:09, said:

Do BBO Swiss events use the same VP table as the EBU? Is there a way to turn off Danish?

Don't you already know the answers to this? It doesn't convert to VPs (which is a particularly British thing) and no, you can't set it to avoid re-matches.

[jnichols]

 gordontd, on 2020-October-29, 01:03, said:

Don't you already know the answers to this? It doesn't convert to VPs (which is a particularly British thing) and no, you can't set it to avoid re-matches.

ACBL uses VPs also

[Mogens21]

How do I require a Director Tab to set up a Tournament?

[Vampyr]

 gordontd, on 2020-October-29, 01:03, said:

Don't you already know the answers to this? It doesn't convert to VPs (which is a particularly British thing) and no, you can't set it to avoid re-matches.

I sort of knew, but I guess I didn’t understand.

Using straight match points doesn’t seem like a good idea; in regular Swiss Pairs, you can lose a match (or more than one in a long event) and still end up with a good result.

But rematches seems like a bigger problem. Did BBO not anticipate that most RAs would not want them?

I wasn’t aware that the ACBL held Swiss Pairs. That is good news, because it always seemed like there was not much variety over there.

[gordontd]

 jnichols, on 2020-October-29, 08:26, said:

ACBL uses VPs also

For Swiss Pairs?

[gordontd]

 Vampyr, on 2020-October-29, 10:20, said:

I sort of knew, but I guess I didn’t understand.

Using straight match points doesn’t seem like a good idea; in regular Swiss Pairs, you can lose a match (or more than one in a long event) and still end up with a good result.

You're looking at it from the point of view of how Swiss Pairs are run in the UK - long matches converted to VPs. But Swiss Pairs are also played with short rounds and then it makes far less sense to VP the results. When we run the Autumn Congress with a Swiss Pairs qualifier on the Friday, we run that as Swiss with 4-board rounds and no conversion to VPs.

 Vampyr, on 2020-October-29, 10:20, said:

But rematches seems like a bigger problem. Did BBO not anticipate that most RAs would not want them?

BBO was not set up with RAs in mind. That's a very recent development.

[paulg]

 Vampyr, on 2020-October-29, 10:20, said:

But rematches seems like a bigger problem. Did BBO not anticipate that most RAs would not want them?

You rarely get rematches in large 8-board tournaments, which is all that people on BBO wanted prior to March.

[jnichols]

 gordontd, on 2020-October-29, 11:08, said:

For Swiss Pairs?

I think it is quite rare for ACBL, tournaments or clubs, to run Swiss Pairs.

I do run "Swiss Pairs" on occasion, but it is an unusual situation for a non-ACBL group. The players are not duplicate players. So, every table does a shuffle and deal every hand, 4 boards per round, rubber(?) bridge scoring. There is a VP scale in ACBLscore that converts those scores to VPs.

[Vampyr]

 gordontd, on 2020-October-29, 11:12, said:

You're looking at it from the point of view of how Swiss Pairs are run in the UK - long matches converted to VPs. But Swiss Pairs are also played with short rounds and then it makes far less sense to VP the results. When we run the Autumn Congress with a Swiss Pairs qualifier on the Friday, we run that as Swiss with 4-board rounds and no conversion to VPs.

Is that new? I don’t remember it, though I have played in the Autumn Congress many times.

[Vampyr]

 gordontd, on 2020-October-29, 11:12, said:

BBO was not set up with RAs in mind. That's a very recent development.

That’s true. But people in general do not like rematches.

[gordontd]

 Vampyr, on 2020-October-30, 12:26, said:

Is that new? I don’t remember it, though I have played in the Autumn Congress many times.

About five years.