[cherdano]

helene_t, on 2021-January-28, 03:14, said:

So we know that p has ♣A and ♦K and ♥Q, that's 9 points. ♠KQJ,♥J,♦Q and ♣Q are unaccounted for, that's 11 points of which partner must 6-8 points. So it is possible that p has ♠KQ and ♦Q but that's too much luck to ask for.

It may have ♠KQJ in which case it probably has no ♦Q, so we need a diamond on a finesse for 7♥, but 6NT is cold.

It may have ♠QJ in which case it also needs a finesse, but again, 6NT has good chances.

I think I try 6NT at MPs.

Partner has more than 6 hcp because he cuebid 4♣.
I think 7♥ might be right in a strong field (MP challenge against smerriman) and 6N in a random daylong. In a Robot 55% tourney you won't find many in 6♥ I think (but there you don't want zeros).

[Cyberyeti]

It's interesting how different systems fare, was looking at very old style asking bid precision and 1♣-1♥ and the next 2 exchanges reveal 7 controls and 5 hearts to 2 of the top 3 which is all you need to know for 7N.

[Lovera]

Cyberyeti, on 2021-January-29, 06:00, said:

My first look at the N hand said "this is too good for 1N" although K&R disagrees, the touching honours and intermediates look good, 10xxx, x, Axxxx, xxx seems to offer good play for game. I think you got a little lucky, if N has the same hand without ♦Q 7♠ just needs 3-2 spades, 7♥ needs the diamond finesse.

(playing 4M) we start 1♥-2N-3♠ which is interesting as while we do bid 3 card decent holdings occasionally, 3♠ will be 4 once it becomes known partner has honours in both clubs and diamonds, he would bid Hxx in a minor before HHx in spades over 2N, so he has 4 spades unless he has 6 hearts. Not sure where the auction goes from there, and whether S can work out N isn't 4522 and N can work out S isn't 44(32).

Perhaps 3♥ initally can clear the "good" hand.

[Cyberyeti]

Lovera, on 2021-January-30, 12:11, said:

Perhaps 3♥ initally can clear the "good" hand.(Lovera)

I don't know what you mean by initially, our 2N is not GF, 3♥ is NF over it

[smerriman]

cherdano, on 2021-January-30, 08:58, said:

Partner has more than 6 hcp because he cuebid 4♣.

I was thinking the same, since GIB so often frustratingly avoids cuebidding with minimums. But it appears in this sequence, even basic GIB will cuebid 4♣ if you take away a queen to leave it with just 15 HCP.

[Lovera]

Cyberyeti, on 2021-January-30, 12:45, said:

I don't know what you mean by initially, our 2N is not GF, 3♥ is NF over it

It is the answer to 2♣ Stayman as superaccept having 17 points with 4♥-4♠ in major suits too.

[Cyberyeti]

Lovera, on 2021-January-30, 17:22, said:

It is the answer to 2♣ Stayman as superaccept having 17 points with 4♥-4♠ in major suits too.

Which of course almost nobody who habitually plays a weak no trump as I do with garbage stayman ever plays.