[sceptic]

Scoring: IMP

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West North East South

 -     Pass  2♣    4♦
 Pass  6♦    Dbl   Pass
 Pass  Pass  

well here it is

comments on bidding (I fell off my chair when my p raised me to 6 diamonds)

can you make this at the table

[hrothgar]

sceptic, on Jun 12 2005, 11:31 PM, said:

Scoring: IMP

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West North East South

- Pass 2♣ 4♦
Pass 6♦ Dbl Pass
Pass Pass

well here it is

comments on bidding (I fell off my chair when my p raised me to 6 diamonds)

can you make this at the table

The 2♣ opening is dreadful

I think that an overcall is appropriate with the South hand. Most pairs have no agreemetns about competitive bidding over a 2♣ opening. With this said and done, I'd only bid 3♦ This is enough to through a spanner in the works and hearder to penalize.

The raise to 6♦ makes no sense what so ever. North has a lot of defense and can't expect to make 6♦

The contract is not makable. Personally, i would lead a low Diamond. While I expect this to blow a natural trump trick, I also want to kill ruffs. On this hand it doesn't even blow the trump trick.

[Double !]

curious 4♦ bid.
not my style unless feeling self-injurious.

[pbleighton]

I agree with Richard, except to add that I would overcall 4D favorable.

Peter

[Fluffy]

The 6 ♦ bid is fishing without the bait, how could East bid a 6 level contract when he has both majors?.

the 2♣ opening was dreadful, and the 4♦ overcall was going to teach him why opening with a 2 suiter is a big mistake.

[42]

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The 2♣ opening is dreadful

I was the one who bid it, and I agree!!
Perhaps you understand it when you hear the circumstances:
I was invited to play a few hands (in the end 7) and agreed because I like the people at that table very much, although I was already on my way to go to sleep. I started with an unknown p at -30 IMPs and the first hand was the one of another thread where the bidding went 2♣ p p p (I offered an undo in private chat). 1 or 2 hands later there appeared another 2♣ opening from the same player as before and we were kidding a bit. When I had the above hand I opened it also 2♣, just for fun (and because we gained already a bucket full of IMPs which started to become embarrassing for me, I offered some back), perhaps I could say in the end to MY p, that he should have been passing 2♣ , but in any case I could take the responsability for the opening. I usually play serious but the persons who know me also know that I love a relaxed atmosphere with some chatting and joking. Wayne, please forgive me should I have made some "trouble" , I did no minute mean to give offence, neither to you as opps, nor to my partner! I just could not resist

Caren

[sceptic]

haha, no prob,

I was really curious if it could be made at the table, if I play the A Diamonds the King drops and if I play the A Hearts the King also drops, I was just curious as to whether an expert would make the contract at the table I knew it was not the most scientific bidding in the world,

I only put my comments in about the bidding as I posted the hand

[Free]

Jlall, on Jun 13 2005, 03:20 PM, said:

Can make on a club lead I think.

Yes, but only on a ♣ lead I'm afraid

[42]

The lead WAS ♣2 (always lead partner's suit )

[Blofeld]

I was too much of a coward to lead ♦s, although I did want to.

Is a club lead obviously worse than a major?

[paulg]

If one of my queens was transferred to diamonds then I'd bid 4♦ at this vulnerability, otherwise probably 3♦.

Richard has already said the rest.

p

[Fluffy]

♣ lead and some special knowdledge about the ♥ position,dunno the chances, but I don't think stiff K is better than the K onside. Specially under the circumstances caren described .

[JSilver]

sceptic, on Jun 12 2005, 08:31 PM, said:

Dealer: North Vul: All Scoring: IMP

♠ A9865 ♥ AT6543 ♦ J6 ♣   ♠ T4 ♥ 872 ♦ Q85 ♣ J9742 ♠ KQJ732 ♥ K ♦ K ♣ AK863 ♠   ♥ QJ9 ♦ AT97432 ♣ QT5

West  North East  South

-    Pass  2♣    4♦
Pass  6♦    Dbl  Pass
Pass  Pass 

well here it is

comments on bidding (I fell off my chair when my p raised me to 6 diamonds)

can you make this at the table

I don't see how to make it even double dummy. I suppose you ruff the ♣, return to hand with a ♠ ruff, and ruff another ♣. Now how can you get rid of the last ♣ and manage the trumps? If you ditch the last ♣ on the ♠A, there's no safe reentry to your hand. If you ruff a ♠ with a middle trump, West will pitch and get 2 trump tricks. What am I missing?