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#1 User is offline   pilowsky 

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Posted 2021-September-27, 02:22


From the practice table.
I was a little surprised to find that all three robots passed after looking at my dismal 3442 - 7 count.
What did the three robots have?


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Posted 2021-September-27, 02:39

I would open ALL the other hands.
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Posted 2021-September-27, 04:14

I can understand why East & West didn't open, but North? Time to find yourself another partnerPosted Image
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Posted 2021-September-27, 05:27

I would certainly open as North. Many people would. Even 4th hand can open citing the rule of 15 :)

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Also, he rates to not have a heart void when he leads the ♥3.


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Posted 2021-September-27, 06:12

View PostHanoi5, on 2021-September-27, 05:27, said:

I would certainly open as North. Many people would. Even 4th hand can open citing the rule of 15 :)
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North seems to have exercised judgement, here. If Pilowsky as dealer, can't open, then East-West might be in the slam-zone :)
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Posted 2021-September-27, 06:47

its a strange hand. e/w can make 3nt as cards are. with best defense n/s go down -2 in possible 2♠ contract. but all human north would open 1♠ imo. what happen after that is anyone to guess?
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Posted 2021-September-27, 07:06

View PostHanoi5, on 2021-September-27, 05:27, said:

I would certainly open as North. Many people would. Even 4th hand can open citing the rule of 15 :)


Many people here play 11-13 or 11-14 in 4th seat for 1N
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Posted 2021-September-27, 07:50

View PostCyberyeti, on 2021-September-27, 07:06, said:

Many people here play 11-13 or 11-14 in 4th seat for 1N


Is that a good idea?

 wyman, on 2012-May-04, 09:48, said:

Also, he rates to not have a heart void when he leads the ♥3.


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Posted 2021-September-27, 07:53

View PostLBengtsson, on 2021-September-27, 06:47, said:

its a strange hand. e/w can make 3nt as cards are. with best defence n/s go down -2 in possible 2♠ contract. but all human north would open 1♠ imo. what happen after that is anyone to guess?

Hoping that N/S don't find the optimum ♠ lead to defeat a 3NT contract?



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Posted 2021-September-27, 08:18

I would open N automatically. Maybe also E, depending on opponents, partner and the moon.

View PostLBengtsson, on 2021-September-27, 06:47, said:

its a strange hand. e/w can make 3nt as cards are.

Not if ♠K hits the deck in first trick.
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Posted 2021-September-27, 08:24

I would open north but wouldn’t like it and I open east in third seat because I can comfortably pass any response.
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Posted 2021-September-27, 08:56

View Postpescetom, on 2021-September-27, 08:18, said:

I would open N automatically. Maybe also E, depending on opponents, partner and the moon.


Not if ♠K hits the deck in first trick.

Assuming North's on lead otherwise its 2/5♠
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Posted 2021-September-27, 10:39

View PostHanoi5, on 2021-September-27, 07:50, said:

Is that a good idea?


Not sure, it's just common that if you play 12-14 in the other 3 seats, then you drop the minimum reqs to 11 in 4th seat as you are odds on to have the majority of the points. Some drop it to 11-13 so that partner is never tempted to raise.
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Posted 2021-September-27, 12:44

View Postmw64ahw, on 2021-September-27, 08:56, said:

Assuming North's on lead otherwise its 2/5♠

One way or the other, ♠K has to hit the deck.
More likely with South on lead than with North.
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Posted 2021-September-28, 06:38

View Postpescetom, on 2021-September-27, 12:44, said:

One way or the other, ♠K has to hit the deck.
More likely with South on lead than with North.


I was having a senior moment :( you are right, of course
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