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#1 User is offline   Ditherer 

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Posted 2022-June-05, 09:56

Sometimes luck favours the bold ... https://tinyurl.com/22msalgr

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Posted 2022-June-05, 10:25

Swap E and W and you wouldn't be so happy :)
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Posted 2022-June-05, 10:38

A thin slam, but the playing strength is just about there to attempt it.
Perhaps rebidding the suit first would be a better approach
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Posted 2022-June-05, 12:09

4 is a ridiculous bid, how are you going to fancy a heart contract when N only has 4 and he's tapped at trick 2.
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Posted 2022-June-05, 12:35

View PostDitherer, on 2022-June-05, 09:56, said:

Sometimes luck favours the bold ... https://tinyurl.com/22msalgr

:-)


so you've bid highly questionably to a poor slam that happens to make ... great.
"definitely that's what I like to play when I'm playing standard - I want to be able to bid diamonds because bidding good suits is important in bridge" - Meckstroth's opinion on weak 2 diamond
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Posted 2022-June-05, 13:49

View Postpescetom, on 2022-June-05, 10:25, said:

Swap E and W and you wouldn't be so happy :)
Remember, all slams are 50% - either they make or they don't.
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Posted 2022-June-05, 14:42

View Postmycroft, on 2022-June-05, 13:49, said:

Remember, all slams are 50% - either they make or they don't.


"A good slam is one that makes", attributed to Bob Hamman as I recall.
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Posted 2022-June-05, 17:00

Sorry that I didn't explain why I consider this hand to be interesting. The bidding was nothing to be proud of, but the lesson is that sometimes only one distribution of the cards allows a contract to be made and (at least at IMP scoring) one needs to play for it. Suppose declarer rises with the Ace of Clubs when the 10 is led; then the slam is certain to fail unless the King is singleton (in which case the 10 would not have been led). Instead, declarer should play for King 10 doubleton and trumps 3-2, discarding losing Spades on winning Clubs. (If you don't think this hand is interesting, please ignore the post rather than make rude comments.)
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Posted 2022-June-05, 22:08

View PostDitherer, on 2022-June-05, 17:00, said:

Sorry that I didn't explain why I consider this hand to be interesting. The bidding was nothing to be proud of, but the lesson is that sometimes only one distribution of the cards allows a contract to be made and (at least at IMP scoring) one needs to play for it. Suppose declarer rises with the Ace of Clubs when the 10 is led; then the slam is certain to fail unless the King is singleton (in which case the 10 would not have been led). Instead, declarer should play for King 10 doubleton and trumps 3-2, discarding losing Spades on winning Clubs. (If you don't think this hand is interesting, please ignore the post rather than make rude comments.)

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Posted 2022-June-06, 07:01

View PostCyberyeti, on 2022-June-05, 12:09, said:

4 is a ridiculous bid, how are you going to fancy a heart contract when N only has 4 and he's tapped at trick 2.


This doesn't surprise me at all. Last week my RHO doubled then bid a new suit at the two level with only four of them. They make +140 for a near top, dummy has three card support and they break 3-3.
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