[smerriman]

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MPs. Seems a clear double the first round to me, but LHO bidding 1♠ and RHO reversing wasn't how I saw the auction proceeding. The opponents aren't ones to psych, though aren't strong players. What next?

[Gerardo]

First thought: 2♠.

On second thought: would opp rebid ♠ with 5? If so, pass looks attractive, intending to bid ♠ if opp does not show 5.

[mw64ahw]

So partner has nothing and maybe a few clubs. I can see 8/9 tricks in ♠ and maybe more in ♣. 2♠ may be the end of it

[Cyberyeti]

mw64ahw, on 2025-February-24, 03:18, said:

So partner has nothing and maybe a few clubs. I can see 8/9 tricks in ♠ and maybe more in ♣. 2♠ may be the end of it

Partner needs no more than xxxxx in clubs for 11 or Kxxxx for 12 potentially

Would have seriously considered 2♦ (specifically the blacks good/bad for us) first time

[smerriman]

2♦ is the majors here, so not a consideration.

[mw64ahw]

2♠ would be ♠ & ♣ limited for me, but usually with longer ♣ so I would need to double too.

[jillybean]

Does noone bid 1♠/1♦?
I bid 1♠, ♣'s next.

[mike777]

2S

[jdiana]

jillybean, on 2025-February-24, 09:02, said:

Does noone bid 1♠/1♦?
I bid 1♠, ♣'s next.

Our range for a simple overcall is 7-18 points, so our "strong hand" double is 19+, but this hand is worth more than its 18 HCP so I would also X. 1♠ might work better here but I think that's resulting.

[jillybean]

Didn't we say 'cue under, natural over' or is this now different with 3 suits bid? 2S now looks like asking for a spade stopper.

Jim, yes this traditionally a double then bid hand. I am beginning to prefer bidding these 2 suited hands rather than starting with a X.
These hands don't come up very often, I will try to monitor my success rate.

edit; I wouldn't be surprised to see that we were fixed by our perhaps inexperienced opponents, and our failure to bid 1S

[mike777]

Bidding one spade then clubs is a reasonable option

[smerriman]

I was all set to bid 2♠, though then wondered what I was actually intending to achieve - there's no way partner is responding, and the opponents are already forced to the three level. Will bidding just help them more? Are the bidders planning to bid 4♣ next? Maybe 1♠ was right after all, though I still don't think I could risk that.

Anyway, I decided I'll pass and see what happens, and the auction continued to surprise..

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[jillybean]

Double and they will run. Pass , take the plus.