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RHO bid ♣ 4 times! They were obviously in a misfit so I thought they would go down, but my partner pulled my penalty double, causing us to get a 0!
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Robot pulls penalty double I doubled RHO insisting clubs 4 times!
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Posted 2025-April-03, 16:57
RHO bid ♣ 4 times! They were obviously in a misfit so I thought they would go down, but my partner pulled my penalty double, causing us to get a 0!
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Posted 2025-April-04, 14:29
Who says your double of 4♣ is a penalty double??? The description of double says "2+♣; 16- total points". That doesn't sound like a penalty double to me.
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Posted 2025-April-05, 15:52
johnu, on 2025-April-04, 14:29, said:
Who says your double of 4♣ is a penalty double??? The description of double says "2+♣; 16- total points". That doesn't sound like a penalty double to me.
If it is a takeout double then the description will show a shortness in the suit. I think the robot bidding system description never uses the word "penalty", and it only shows length in the suit in these situations.
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Posted 2025-April-05, 16:18
You might give some consideration to what MikeH said yesterday about the perils of playing with the robots...
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Posted 2025-April-05, 16:26
mikl_plkcc, on 2025-April-03, 16:57, said:
but my partner pulled my penalty double, causing us to get a 0!
That means 100% of the field have learnt that you do not double for penalties with robots, as discussed multiple times already. It's up to you as to how many bad scores you'd like to get before you join that club.
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Posted 2025-April-05, 16:28
mikl_plkcc, on 2025-April-05, 15:52, said:
If it is a takeout double then the description will show a shortness in the suit. I think the robot bidding system description never uses the word "penalty", and it only shows length in the suit in these situations.
In real life bridge, if you made a penalty double without a huge trump stack in an auction somewhat like this, you would have transferable values. You have next to none. You are also playing with a GIB. GIB loves taking out doubles, and has for decades.
And, the GIBs are in a forcing auction. Maybe they will end up in spades, or 5 clubs, or even higher. Why double them in a part score when they are going to continue bidding?
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Posted Yesterday, 16:44
What are transferable values? Also, what kind of trump stack is normally required to double a 4-level contract?
Also, isn't 4♣ non-forcing?
Also, isn't 4♣ non-forcing?
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mikl_plkcc, on 2025-April-06, 16:44, said:
What are transferable values?
Transferable values work on either defense or offense.
You have lots of slow tricks. Great on defense.
Not so good if you're trying to take 10 tricks before they can take four
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