How many bids will this take? a hand from the club today
#1
Posted 2026-February-09, 16:35
"100% certain that many excellent players would disagree. This is far more about style/judgment than right vs. wrong." Fred
#3
Posted 2026-February-09, 17:12
"100% certain that many excellent players would disagree. This is far more about style/judgment than right vs. wrong." Fred
#4
Posted 2026-February-09, 23:54
Ask KCs.
Bid 6 or 7 NT according to response.
A round King would also do, with an entry in trumps,
but no way to find about that, is it?
#5
Posted 2026-February-10, 05:49
#6
Posted 2026-February-10, 06:48
Gerardo, on 2026-February-09, 23:54, said:
Ask KCs.
A strong 2 clubs opening is likely to catch 4♥ (at least) from opponents. Not easy to keycard in spades after that.
Gerardo, on 2026-February-09, 23:54, said:
A round King would also do, with an entry in trumps,
but no way to find about that, is it?
Not sure what trumps is about.
Unless I'm missing something you need to find partner with either ♦T or a lower one that can be promoted to exploit a round King, if that's what you are saying.
My specific Ace ask will find any King, but I think I would only risk 7NT if it finds ♠K.
#7
Posted 2026-February-10, 09:15
2♣ (PASS) 2♠positive with spades. (PASS). edited
"100% certain that many excellent players would disagree. This is far more about style/judgment than right vs. wrong." Fred
#9
Posted 2026-February-10, 09:45
Not surprisingly, the opponents aren't bidding.
When I wrote 1X:1Y. its an uncontested auction. 1X 1Y X P is a contested auction, isn't this standard?
"100% certain that many excellent players would disagree. This is far more about style/judgment than right vs. wrong." Fred
#10
Posted 2026-February-10, 09:57
jillybean, on 2026-February-10, 09:45, said:
Not surprisingly, the opponents aren't bidding.
When I wrote 1X:1Y. its an uncontested auction. 1X 1Y X P is a contested auction, isn't this standard?
Thanks and rereading, I was misled.
But the stunt I refer to is artificially bidding a 2 card suit, a zealous Director might take issue unless it is alerted as "may be a fictitious suit" or similar.
I wouldn't be surprised if the opponents were bidding, there are three long suits and almost half the honours still out there. It pays to be aggressive with shape over strong openings.
#11
Posted 2026-February-10, 11:39
pescetom, on 2026-February-10, 06:48, said:
Not sure what trumps is about.
Unless I'm missing something you need to find partner with either ♦T or a lower one that can be promoted to exploit a round King, if that's what you are saying.
My specific Ace ask will find any King, but I think I would only risk 7NT if it finds ♠K.
then, similarly as you do, I'd bid 6NT over 4♥.
#15
Posted 2026-February-10, 12:09
Gerardo, on 2026-February-10, 11:39, said:
I would bid 6NT now too: but I wouldn't be in this situation after our 4NT opening unless LHO has a monster that can find 5♥ or higher (over 5♣ Pass=no Ace, X=♣A, other as without interference; over 5♦ Pass=No Ace or ♣A, X=♦A, other as without interference. Specific Kings ask is still on if partner showed an Ace or I failed to ask).
#16
Posted 2026-February-10, 15:18
If not, then it’s an easy keycard, since the spade King is all we need. Yes, we may miss 7N when he has an unlikely diamond entry and a round suit king, but sometimes the game is too tough,
Btw, if looking for a swing, there’s a lot to be said for opening 7N unless the OPPs are both competent defenders. Most club players are not and will get confused when having to reduce to 1 card. Plus the contract may be cold anyway.
#17
Posted 2026-February-10, 15:25
Gerardo, on 2026-February-10, 11:40, said:
First time playing, partner is very experienced so I assume what Mike said above. 2 of top 3♠, made for an easy 7N
7Nx3
7D
6N
6D x3
"100% certain that many excellent players would disagree. This is far more about style/judgment than right vs. wrong." Fred
#18
Posted 2026-February-11, 21:53
#19
Posted Yesterday, 05:16
gszes, on 2026-February-11, 21:53, said:
You appear to be NV, opps are trying to hit a pretty narrow sac target particularly if they are vul
#20
Posted Yesterday, 10:41
I like the idea of 4NT specific A ask, but if partner has a round king, I am not sure what call I can make that says "find me another King, please".
2♣-p-2♠-p does make it easy... Maybe 2♣ and then as many spades as I have to bid avoids 1♠-AP -N?

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