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#1 User is online   jillybean 

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Posted Yesterday, 13:36



Matchpoints, club game
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Posted Yesterday, 14:00

1. If partner responds 1 this is a BW Death Hand, if partner responds 1 you have a tough decision in standard methods - on the one hand this hand is too strong for a 15-17 3, on the other hand upgrading when partner bid your singleton is generally a poor idea and you'd have to upgrade into a fake 2 reverse.

In Dutch Doubleton I have slightly fewer problems over a 1 or 1 response - I have gadgets here, but even without those the fact that partner (nominally) promises 8+ hcp means I can establish a game force and take it slow. If partner responds 1 though I have a clear 3 (15-17, a slight underbid but partner can be very weak) over which partner might have a problem, but at least has practically denied a major suit.

It's deals like this where I miss my canapé strong club system.
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Posted Yesterday, 14:38

1C will rebid 3C if partner shows spades
2NT if partner shows H or a balanced minimum.
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Posted Yesterday, 14:51

1 followed by 2N whichever Major is bid showing one of 3 options.
Now partner can bid 3 min. or 3 max.
3 is passable or I correct to 3M with the right Major
After 3 GF ; I bid 3N to play/3oM to ask for a stopper both with 6
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Posted Yesterday, 20:43

I could have saved myself the headache, all roads lead to 3nt on this hand other than 1 table who stalled in 2CE?
I have a had a lot of these death hands recently!


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Posted Today, 02:36

Yep 6 is a long shot
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Posted Today, 04:48

View Postmw64ahw, on 2026-February-25, 02:36, said:

Yep 6 is a long shot


Although a heart lead from Hxx you don't necessarily make 3N
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Posted Today, 05:06

View PostCyberyeti, on 2026-February-25, 04:48, said:

Although a heart lead from Hxx you don't necessarily make 3N

3N is makeable unless of course you play badly
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Posted Today, 05:19

View Postmw64ahw, on 2026-February-25, 05:06, said:

3N is makeable unless of course you play badly


On the actual lie of the cards yes, but how do you propose to make it without the miracle lies in the pointy suits and if S has Q9x on a heart lead.

Also if hearts are 4-4 the right line is to play on clubs, so even though 3N may be on, it may be wrong to play the line that works.
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