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#1 User is online   wbartley 

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Posted Yesterday, 09:30

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Not much more to say about it.
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Posted Yesterday, 12:10

I wouldn't even expect GiB to know what to do here, let alone Ben that was only trained on how people bid with GiB plus a few basic rules.
But yes, correcting to 6 does seem the minimum.

It's an interesting question whether the cue is a good bid at MP.
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Posted Yesterday, 15:04

Great bidding by GIB. How else do you get to play a 0-0 fit?
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Posted Today, 00:33

View Postpescetom, on 2026-May-05, 12:10, said:

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It's an interesting question whether the cue is a good bid at MP.


I dont like the bid, ..., even playing with a human, although it is not as bad as I originally though,
but it is req. an intelligent p, a way better bid is 7H, if you are shooting for the grand.

As it is, it implies, that it is obvious what a 6C bid would be, a cue showing first round control, not
to play, I guess this makes sense, but who knowes, and I would not claim, that the meaning of 6C is obv.

And if the meaning of 6C is not obv., than bypassing 6C is not either, hence, ..., either go low, bid 6S,
or shoot, and you may try 7H, having the safety blanket of getting corrected to 7S.

Playing with a bot or average player, you risk confusion and sometimes stupid thinks happen, when peoble
are confused.
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Posted Today, 06:47

 P_Marlowe, on 2026-May-06, 00:33, said:

I dont like the bid, ..., even playing with a human, although it is not as bad as I originally though,
but it is req. an intelligent p, a way better bid is 7H, if you are shooting for the grand.

As it is, it implies, that it is obvious what a 6C bid would be, a cue showing first round control, not
to play, I guess this makes sense, but who knowes, and I would not claim, that the meaning of 6C is obv.

And if the meaning of 6C is not obv., than bypassing 6C is not either, hence, ..., either go low, bid 6S,
or shoot, and you may try 7H, having the safety blanket of getting corrected to 7S.

Playing with a bot or average player, you risk confusion and sometimes stupid thinks happen, when peoble
are confused.

If you are shooting for grand (and I would at IMPs) then maybe just blasting 7S is best. That puts the stronger opponent on lead and makes it less likely that the lead is clubs, which I have no reason to expect partner to control. If you bid 7H then they might find clubs even without seeing the Ace.
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Posted Today, 11:06

View PostP_Marlowe, on 2026-May-06, 00:33, said:

I dont like the bid, ..., even playing with a human, although it is not as bad as I originally though,
but it is req. an intelligent p, a way better bid is 7H, if you are shooting for the grand.

As it is, it implies, that it is obvious what a 6C bid would be, a cue showing first round control, not
to play, I guess this makes sense, but who knowes, and I would not claim, that the meaning of 6C is obv.

And if the meaning of 6C is not obv., than bypassing 6C is not either, hence, ..., either go low, bid 6S,
or shoot, and you may try 7H, having the safety blanket of getting corrected to 7S.

Playing with a bot or average player, you risk confusion and sometimes stupid thinks happen, when peoble
are confused.


6C would be natural, not a cue bid in support of spades. 6D is the only way to try for seven. 6H will be passed and 7H is poker. In any case, this situation exposes the utter absurdity of calling neural net applications intelligent. Even the weakest intermediate level bridge player would know not to pass 6D after both opponents bid the suit naturally, one of them preemptively.
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