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Whole is not the sum of parts couple of play problems

#1 User is offline   Trumpace 

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Posted 2007-September-14, 12:52

I apologize in advance if these hands have appeared in a textbook/column before.

(As always, Adv/+ please refrain from posting too soon)

Plan the play in the following two hands.

Contract is 4S in both cases. It is rubber bridge, so please don't worry about overtricks.


i)

Scoring: Rubber


West cashes the K and Q of clubs and shifts to a trump to which both follow.

What next?


ii)

Scoring: Rubber


West cashes the K and Q of clubs and shifts to a trump to which both follow.

What next?
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Posted 2007-September-14, 13:15

i) If trumps are 3-2, draw 3 rounds, A, A, K. If Q did not drop, exit with a heart. If east wins, he must give you a ruff and discard or lead up to your KJxx of diamonds, and you make. If west wins, then you still have the diamond finesse, but if he returns , take the Ace first then finesse.

If trumps are 4-1, draw trump, cash the aces, then try both finesses, as the ruff-and-discard isn't going to do you any good.

ii) If trumps are 3-2, draw 3 rounds, cash AK. If the Q did not drop, exit with a low diamond. If the Q wins, you're golden. If whoever wins can't exit with a diamond, you're golden - ruff and discard in clubs, and opponents breaking hearts (awww) gives you 3 heart tricks.

If they exit a diamond, play them for the Q and finesse accordingly, since clearly they're being a jerk. :P

If trumps are 4-1, draw trump, cash the A, then finesse the diamonds. If it fails and they return a diamond, play as above. :huh:

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Posted 2007-September-14, 13:15

whole = sum of parts + interactions

(sorry, couldn't resist showing off my background as physicist.. lol)
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Posted 2007-September-14, 13:17

Ill give it a try.
Draw trumps. Then K, A and a small towards the J. Ill win if 's are 3-3 or the Q onside or second behind. If RHO has Qxxx I will finesse LHO for the Q.
Why didnt you give decl the 10 in problem two? Then I culd run 3 's for a 100% line :huh: Now I cant see the importance of 10. :P
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Posted 2007-September-14, 13:38

plaur, on Sep 14 2007, 02:17 PM, said:

Ill give it a try.
Draw trumps. Then K, A and a small towards the J. Ill win if 's are 3-3 or the Q onside or second behind. If RHO has Qxxx I will finesse LHO for the Q.
Why didnt you give decl the 10 in problem two? Then I culd run 3 's for a 100% line :huh: Now I cant see the importance of 10.  :P

At the risk of spoiling a good problem, I will post my answers hidden: however, I suggest trying to work out the difference between the two hands first.. it is educational.

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Posted 2007-September-14, 14:39

plaur, on Sep 14 2007, 09:17 PM, said:

Ill give it a try.
Draw trumps. Then K, A and a small towards the J. Ill win if 's are 3-3 or the Q onside or second behind. If RHO has Qxxx I will finesse LHO for the Q.
Why didnt you give decl the 10 in problem two? Then I culd run 3 's for a 100% line :huh: Now I cant see the importance of 10. :P

You got the first one right.

On the second, try to look at the importance of the 8 (combined with holding the T).
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Posted 2007-September-19, 15:37

Thank you. A nice set of hands.
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