If any defender calls TD It is frivolous.[no supporting law when the matches are played on screen tables] PP in addition!
when the event is played openly without bidding boxes& screens, then there is a suspicion that the bid might be over heard.
I agree with the views.
MBVSubrahmanyam
India.
Strange Bid Life Master Pairs, Day 2
#22
Posted 2010-July-27, 22:50
I don't understand all this talk of "frivolous TD call" and "issue a PP". For what? Asking the TD to do his job?
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Our ultimate goal on defense is to know by trick two or three everyone's hand at the table. -- Mike777
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#23
Posted 2010-July-28, 05:00
MBV53, on Jul 28 2010, 04:54 AM, said:
If any defender calls TD It is frivolous.[no supporting law when the matches are played on screen tables] PP in addition!
when the event is played openly without bidding boxes& screens, then there is a suspicion that the bid might be over heard.
when the event is played openly without bidding boxes& screens, then there is a suspicion that the bid might be over heard.
If you play bridge, something happens, and you are worried that it might mean something has happened outside the Laws, even if you are not sure, you are strongly encouraged to call the TD. I do not see how you can then say it is frivolous.
We have enough difficulty persuading players to call the TD when they should. If we start telling them TD calls are frivolous in a case like this it will get worse.
David Stevenson
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Merseyside England UK
EBL TD
Currently at home
Visiting IBLF from time to time
<webjak666@gmail.com>
#24
Posted 2010-July-28, 14:39
rogerclee, on Jul 25 2010, 12:16 AM, said:
So here are three questions
1) If you were called to the table as a director after the hand was played and asked to make a ruling, would you change the result?
2) What percent chance do you think the 7N bid was made with a wire?
3) Would you file a recorder form about this hand? (I am.)
1) If you were called to the table as a director after the hand was played and asked to make a ruling, would you change the result?
2) What percent chance do you think the 7N bid was made with a wire?
3) Would you file a recorder form about this hand? (I am.)
I am surprised at the dismissive nature of most of the replies you have received thus far.
In answer to question 1, if called to the table as director I would approach this situation as I would any other ruling: investigate the facts! In this case, after hearing the auction I would ask the player to explain why he bid 7NT; depending on the initial reply, I may or may not ask follow-up questions. Only when I have heard from the player can I give a sensible answer to question 2.
#25
Posted 2010-July-29, 06:30
I think most good players find the bid really unnusual, I think the correct bid at this point is 4NT and even play just game. So suggesting that there might be something more its kind of appropiate.
the better the player the more likelly he cheated.
the better the player the more likelly he cheated.
#26
Posted 2010-July-29, 06:38
Fluffy, on Jul 29 2010, 08:30 AM, said:
the better the player the more likelly he cheated.
That may be so, but Jeffrey is right the TD should approach this just as any other ruling, without bias, and by investigating before drawing conclusions.
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As for tv, screw it. You aren't missing anything. -- Ken Berg
Our ultimate goal on defense is to know by trick two or three everyone's hand at the table. -- Mike777
I have come to realise it is futile to expect or hope a regular club game will be run in accordance with the laws. -- Jillybean
As for tv, screw it. You aren't missing anything. -- Ken Berg
Our ultimate goal on defense is to know by trick two or three everyone's hand at the table. -- Mike777
I have come to realise it is futile to expect or hope a regular club game will be run in accordance with the laws. -- Jillybean