[straube]

I've played leaping Michaels for a long time, but I always wondered what the full thing was. Also how to defend against a weak 2D. Found this and inviting comments (like is this how most people play?)

2D (3D) majors
2D (4C) hearts and clubs
2D (4D) spades and clubs
2D (4N) blackwood

2H (4N) minors
2H (4H) minors, bigger
2H (3H) running minor, asks for stop
2H (3S) invitational spades

3S (4S) hearts and a minor

[32519]

straube, on 2010-November-05, 20:22, said:

I've played leaping Michaels for a long time, but I always wondered what the full thing was. Also how to defend against a weak 2D. Found this and inviting comments (like is this how most people play?)

2D (3D) majors
2D (4C) hearts and clubs
2D (4D) spades and clubs
2D (4N) blackwood

2H (4N) minors
2H (4H) minors, bigger
2H (3H) running minor, asks for stop
2H (3S) invitational spades

3S (4S) hearts and a minor

What about the rest of your defense to a 2♦ preempt i.e.
Double = takeout of ♦
2NT = Natural, balanced, HCP range according to partnership agreement
New suit = Natural (is this forcing or non-forcing according to partnership agreement?)

[32519]

straube, on 2010-November-05, 20:22, said:

I've played leaping Michaels for a long time, but I always wondered what the full thing was. Also how to defend against a weak 2D. Found this and inviting comments (like is this how most people play?)

2D (3D) majors
2D (4C) hearts and clubs
2D (4D) spades and clubs
2D (4N) blackwood

I looked up Michaels cuebid again. These guys say use Michaels with a weak hand (5-10 HCP) or a strong hand (16+ HCP). With an intermediate hand (11-15 HCP) bid the higher ranking suit first. I put these numbers through BBOs deal generator to get an idea of the frequency of occurrence. This is what was spat out:
0.45% = 5-10 HCP
0.33% = 11-15 HCP
0.08% = 16+ HCP
0.86% = Overall frequency of occurrence

I don't like this suggestion of yours here. I prefer this -
2D (3D) majors (this is fine, no problem; use it for the weak Michaels hand i.e 5-10 HCP)
2D (4C) hearts and clubs I prefer ♣ plus an unspecified major. To ask for the unspecified major, responder bids 4♦. The reason I choose this is because your next suggestion below forces the auction to 5♣ when partner has preference for ♣ but an otherwise bust hand. Following my suggestion allows partner to pass 4♣ with preference for ♣ and an otherwise bust hand, and to ask for the major with preference for the majors
2D (4D) spades and clubs I prefer this to show the strong Michaels hand i.e. 16+ HCP
2D (4N) blackwood [Blackwood with no suit agreed upon? Can you please give some more detail as to what you have in mind here?]

[wank]

people in the expert forum don't bid michaels over weak 2s on 5 counts.

[MrAce]

wank, on 2014-March-16, 14:13, said:

people in the expert forum don't bid michaels over weak 2s on 5 counts.

[manudude03]

I might be tempted to bid michaels on QJT987 QT98765 void void, but apart from that

[32519]

32519, on 2014-March-16, 11:21, said:

2D (4C) hearts and clubs I prefer ♣ plus an unspecified major. To ask for the unspecified major, responder bids 4♦. The reason I choose this is because your next suggestion below forces the auction to 5♣ when partner has preference for ♣ but an otherwise bust hand. Following my suggestion allows partner to pass 4♣ with preference for ♣ and an otherwise bust hand, and to ask for the major with preference for the majors

This can be extended further as follows -
1. With slam interest in either major, bid 4♦ to ask for the major
2. With no slam interest, bid 4♥ as P/C

[manudude03]

32519, on 2014-March-16, 21:11, said:

This can be extended further as follows -
1. With slam interest in either major, bid 4♦ to ask for the major
2. With no slam interest, bid 4♥ as P/C

That just doesn't work. What does the advancer bid with a poor 4144 hand? I'd sure like to play 4S when it's right. That's why people suggest having 2 bids to show clubs and a major.

[JLOGIC]

I feel pretty strongly that over 2D you should have 2 bids for the majors. There is a big difference in a hand that wants to overcall and is 5-5 majors (3D), and a hand that actually wants to force it to game, and obviously both majors is an important hand type. In fact I even prefer to play 2H (3H) michaels and 2H (4m) leaping michaels but that is more controversial and few people agree with me on that

[gnasher]

manudude03, on 2014-March-17, 02:56, said:

That just doesn't work. What does the advancer bid with a poor 4144 hand?

He bids 4♠, also p/c.

[32519]

manudude03, on 2014-March-17, 02:56, said:

That just doesn't work. What does the advancer bid with a poor 4144 hand? I'd sure like to play 4S when it's right. That's why people suggest having 2 bids to show clubs and a major.

Ever notice you have a 9-card ♣ fit?