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#1 User is offline   Bbradley62 

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Posted 2010-December-31, 13:50

Automated Express Fun... Full-Disclosure SAYC in effect...
1NT-(2)-4

2 does not have an explanation available. The BBO SAYC clearly says this is natural, so this should be included in the script.

4 is explained as a Texas Transfer showing six spades and game forcing values. WRONG!
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Posted 2010-December-31, 17:48

View PostBbradley62, on 2010-December-31, 13:50, said:

Automated Express Fun... Full-Disclosure SAYC in effect...
1NT-(2)-4

2 does not have an explanation available. The BBO SAYC clearly says this is natural, so this should be included in the script.

4 is explained as a Texas Transfer showing six spades and game forcing values. WRONG!


At least it's correct about the "game forcing" part.
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Posted 2011-March-12, 02:14

View PostBbradley62, on 2010-December-31, 13:50, said:

Automated Express Fun... Full-Disclosure SAYC in effect...
1NT-(2)-4

2 does not have an explanation available. The BBO SAYC clearly says this is natural, so this should be included in the script.

4 is explained as a Texas Transfer showing six spades and game forcing values. WRONG!


How is it wrong? if I have 7s and know my partner has at least 2 for the 1NT opening, the 9-card fit will probably be our best fit and I would strongly suspect the 2 bid only showed 4 s or he psyched. They may be playing some convention like Frelling weak twos where 2 showed 6+ s or 4+ s and 5+ s. I haven't played Automated Express Fun but normally, Texas transfers are still on after interference but other things like Jacoby Transfers are off.
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Posted 2011-March-12, 22:21

View PostTcyk, on 2011-March-12, 02:14, said:

How is it wrong? if I have 7s and know my partner has at least 2 for the 1NT opening, the 9-card fit will probably be our best fit and I would strongly suspect the 2 bid only showed 4 s or he psyched. They may be playing some convention like Frelling weak twos where 2 showed 6+ s or 4+ s and 5+ s. I haven't played Automated Express Fun but normally, Texas transfers are still on after interference but other things like Jacoby Transfers are off.

At the time I made this post, all participants in the Automated Express Fun were required to play the BBO SAYC, which did not include Texas Transfers. This also precluded opps from playing anything other than natural over my 1NT opening. The conditions of contest have since changed in these games; everyone is now required to play GIB's 2/1 system, which does include Texas Transfers.
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Posted 2011-March-13, 11:15

But you are allowed to psych or misclick lol
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Posted 2016-January-03, 17:06

View PostBbradley62, on 2010-December-31, 13:50, said:

Automated Express Fun... Full-Disclosure SAYC in effect...
1NT-(2)-4

2 does not have an explanation available. The BBO SAYC clearly says this is natural, so this should be included in the script.

4 is explained as a Texas Transfer showing six spades and game forcing values. WRONG!

It should be not transfert 'cause opp intervention needs to indicate really(=nat.) suit.(Lovera)
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Posted 2016-January-03, 23:43

Wow! How did you find that thread?
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Posted 2016-January-04, 08:55

View PostBbradley62, on 2016-January-03, 23:43, said:

Wow! How did you find that thread?

Hello, do you refer to answere ? "In the case of opp bidding, this convention doesn't apply, to avoid possible misunderstanding, because the jump answer of partner of 1NT bidder when interferred shows a positive hand with the natural suit" (The "Texas Convention" corretted pag. 61 from "Il Sistema Burgay" by Leandro Burgay copyright 1969 - U. Mursia & C. via Tadino, 29 Milano first edition 1969).This "Full Disclosure and Dealer" is different respect the other ones and ..cryptic for informatic procedures (that i don't know), bye.
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Posted 2016-January-05, 08:19

View PostBbradley62, on 2016-January-03, 23:43, said:

Wow! How did you find that thread?

Hi Bbradley62: this topic begins in a way that let me thinking at a precedent dialogue in other side or at direct request of anybody. May you tell me about ? Thanks.
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