[dake50]

Curiously, this is easy if we are VUL or n/n. I got 2DT(slow yes) X.
At favorable, my partner could have garbage,
now I'll leave it to him to X if he has 2+DT.
They may escape undoubled when we have 4-5DT.

[JLOGIC]

Fluffy, on 2011-January-05, 04:29, said:

zero quick tricks better?, we will likelly make 1 trick, unsurprisingly even 2, but it takes 4 tricks to defeat 4♠, 5 tricks to get 300. Playing opponents to have a nearly mirror 5134 doesn't work in my experience.

The opps don't have to have 10 spades you know! One guy overcalled 4S, and one guy has not shown (or denied) support. It just seemed like you were being disingenuous to make your point when you say we have no tricks, obviously when we have this many hearts and are leading a trump our minor suits rate to take tricks. If you really think they must have 10 spades and we have 11 hearts, you should obviously bid 5H since we are almost cold and it might be a double game swing! Passing is just absurdly underrating the value of our minor suit holdings on defense, as is calling our hand zero tricks. I would guess that we are very likely to have 3 tricks, and partner bid 4H red/white opposite a passed hand. He easily might have a minor suit ace, and does not show 8 hearts necessarily by opening 4H.

FWIW I like 5H I just think passing is nuts.

[JLOGIC]

Siegmund, on 2011-January-05, 02:59, said:

Most fields I've ever seen, there is no such thing as a unanimous 1st or 2nd seat 4H opening -- invariably a third of them will prefer 3H or a third of them will prefer 1H.

Partner is in 3rd seat and red/white

[whereagles]

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Ugh bridge is hard

Bridge is easy. Guessing is what is hard

[gszeszycki]

Once I decide to not pass I have to realize this might not be my last decision.
assuming we are using the superior podi/pori (vs dopi ropi) I would now bid

4N.

There is no guarantee that pushing to 5h is correct but getting an aces response from partner will leave me much better placed concerning what to do over 5s. Bidding 5h now
is just plain not as effective as 4n.

I would rate 4n=10 5h=6 pass=5 x=3

[655321]

gszeszycki, on 2011-January-05, 19:40, said:

getting an aces response from partner will leave me much better placed concerning what to do over 5s.

Yes, when partner bids 5♠ to show his AKQ of hearts you are well placed to correct to 6♥, knowing that partner won't make 5♠.