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#1 User is offline   rduran1216 

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Posted 2011-February-19, 01:29



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Posted 2011-February-19, 06:36

2♥ for me.

I know this can backfire, but I am not passing at these colors and I am not prepared to stick my head out any further without getting support from partner.
I also expect to be on lead, not partner, if we defend.

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Posted 2011-February-19, 07:05

This is not the pedestrian 6-3-3-1. This is 7-4-1-1.!
Even with the poor quality 7xH, 3H VUL; 4H nonvul.
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Posted 2011-February-19, 07:58

I would try 3♥
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Posted 2011-February-19, 11:08

i had the misfortune of playing this hand against the best pair in the room at a club game.

I decided to bid 5H, which was doubled down 5. 6S is a laydown but only 2 out of 16 pairs were there.
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Posted 2011-February-19, 11:12

5♥ is really bad, your bridge will become much better if you just avoid bids like this.
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Posted 2011-February-19, 12:14

4♥ looks right, especially against the best pair in the room. Don't give them enough space to exploit their superiority over the rest of the field, but don't bid so much that they know they can get a good result by doubling. Even if 4♥ is going for 800, they won't usually know that it is.
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Posted 2011-February-20, 00:54

View Postgnasher, on 2011-February-19, 12:14, said:

4♥ looks right, especially against the best pair in the room. Don't give them enough space to exploit their superiority over the rest of the field, but don't bid so much that they know they can get a good result by doubling. Even if 4♥ is going for 800, they won't usually know that it is.


had i bid 4H lho would bid 4nt and they would get to 6S.

RHO had AJ10xx AQx AKxx x
LHO had KQ7 xx J9xxx AQxx
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Posted 2011-February-20, 02:08

Either the room isn't very good or LHO wouldn't have bid 4nt. A 12 point hand with only 3 card support for partner and 2-dead in the preempted suit? That neither screams force to the 5 level not that blackwood is going to be great. For that matter if lho bids 4nt as keycard rho almost has an immediate 7♠ call (surely partner must have 2+Q and either a stiff ♥ or ♥Kx to bid 4nt) and would certainly force there if lho confirms all the keycards.
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Posted 2011-February-20, 03:51

LHO had an obvios 4♠ over 4♥.

I would bid 3♥ only, but maybe I am just wrong.
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Posted 2011-February-20, 03:56

3♥ for me.
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Posted 2011-February-20, 21:15

I'd bid 3♥, but 4 isn't unreasonable. 2 is absolutely ridiculous, you do realize you have a partner, right Rainer?! Misdescribing my hand AND not taking away much space from my opponents is always good. 5 is almost as bad, but I have a slight bit of sympathy for it, given that you assume you're trying to get a good board by swinging a bit, since the opponents will outplay you if left to their own devices. Regardless, I think 3 is normal, and 4 is aggressive but could easily work.
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Posted 2011-February-20, 21:47

Looks like a good place for a psyche to me, something like 1NT, maybe I can keep them low or make them bite on a X. If I were telling the truth I'd bid 4♥ but I know I'm crazy, if they find their way to slam after that wd opps, I tried my best.
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Posted 2011-February-20, 21:48

View Postkayin801, on 2011-February-20, 21:47, said:

Looks like a good place for a psyche to me, something like 1NT, maybe I can keep them low or make them bite on a X. If I were telling the truth I'd bid 4♥ but I know I'm crazy, if they find their way to slam after that wd opps, I tried my best.

Does the fact that a psych never even occurred to me on this hand make me old?
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Posted 2011-February-20, 21:51

View Postmtvesuvius, on 2011-February-20, 21:48, said:

Does the fact that a psych never even occurred to me on this hand make me old?


Who are you and what have you done with mtvesuvius?
I once yelled at my partner for discarding the 'wrong' card when he was subjected to a squeeze that I allowed by giving the wrong count with too high a card. Now he's allowed to pitch aces when the opponents have the king in the dummy. At trick 2. When he could have followed suit. And blame me.

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Posted 2011-February-20, 22:23

I would bid 3H. I have a lot of sympathy for 4. Make the Hearts a bit better and certainly I would bid 4. 2H is poor as it totally overstates the strength of the hand; why lie to partner? (Hmm, did not even read the volcanic one's post before posting that comment).5H is putting all of your eggs into one basket. You are begging to get doubled.

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Posted 2011-February-20, 23:17

You made an excellent bid, unlucky that you did not get a top! Thanks for posting and sharing it with us, I think we have all learned a valuable lesson here.
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Posted 2011-February-21, 17:52

Eau de Cologne...4711 and all 4 points though they r concentrate in my long suits; these r the places heros r made huh B-) .
Im old so i wont psyche, after all only thing i could bid in that purpose is NT and all too often prd doubles or redoubles everything that moves, so ♥it is some ten years ago at 4 level now only 3. After that i concentrate to polish my nails or to my beer unless prd bid clubs.
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Posted 2011-February-21, 18:02

If I bid 5♥ on a hand like this I wouldn't tell anyone.

I think 3 is sufficient.
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Posted 2011-February-21, 18:08

View PostPhil, on 2011-February-21, 18:02, said:

If I bid 5♥ on a hand like this I wouldn't tell anyone.

I think 3 is sufficient.


Did you do this yesterday?

You didn't tell anyone then? ;)
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